Anyone tempted by extra "extras"?

[Gary C]

There have been instances at a MP where a BBBJ has been offered. While I have never accepted, it's very tempting and difficult to say no especially in the heat of things.
I realize the dangers of contacting HIV and STD's through full service, but how likely is it when receiving or for that matter, giving oral.

And don't ask me where I've been offered the service.

 

[MangleZauSa]

Generally speaking your chances of getting STDs from an unprotected BJ is low.

However, if you're not comfortable - why do it? You might as well request a condom, as I am sure at the place you went to... they'll have some.

Oh and yes... I'm (and others are) always tempted by the extra extras... I haven't done anything BB yet (not even BBBJ). I'm young and paranoid

 

[Punky (Eeeevil Atheist)]

More and more of the sp's , including mp's, are providing BBBJ services because that's what so many guys really want.

My experience is that more and more of the sp's are offering BBFS as well; and that seems a little spooky.

BBBJ's are apparently reasonably safe ; but BBFS is no doubt another matter; but who the hell knows the truth.

 

[John "THE GREAT"]

It may be crazy, but it's definitely true. It's not hearsay.

I would say, very roughly, that it's in the range 1 in 10-20 providers are prepared to provide bbfs. There was recently a two week span where 3 out of 4 providers were prepared to provide bbfs ( 1 fs sp and 2 mp sp's)

I did not not discuss the risks, as I was generally in the middle of other satisfactory services which I wanted to complete and then leave.

I did not personally experience bbfs with them but believe that it was specifically available, and there are many others over the past year.

Based on a previous thread, I think many members have experienced this phenomenon, the offering of bbfs that is.

There are few who have admitted partaking in the activity.

 

[babydoll]

Ok so maybe I should share my experience ... I had a rash by Mr. Happy in the past month and became very worried... so decided to go to the Toronto Hassle Free Clinic... and it turns out it was nothing .. however the doctor gave me a talking to in regards to STD's ... afterall .. that is why they are there. He explained to me that a BBBJ can possibly infect you with Hepatitis B and that it is now a mandatory innauculation with all public school children to bring it to a halt. When I was at that age I am sure it was not a standard part of the shots... so I have, at his urging said I would go through the shots.. which consist of 1 at the first visit the 2nd a month later and the last one 6 months from then. It may worth your while to consider having that done if you are going to remain in the hobby... simply from a playing safe perspective... all the other issues around STD's still applies .. so play safe out there. My 2 cents worth.

 

[Pecs Like Chris Masters]

F**ked if I know.

You might asphyxiate on a pubic hair( most ladies shave now) or experience an allergic reaction from tuna.

You better do some fast reading and get your ass over to the Hasslefree Clinic.

 

[Wise123]

I would definitely agree that bbbj is readily and openly available from any number of MPA's and SP's in the GTA. It's routinely offered, at least in my experience, and anecdotal evidence would suggest it's on the rise.

As for bbfs, I've had it offered a few times and have to admit gave in during the heat of the moment on one occasion some 7-8 years ago. Although I remained "clean" from the experience, it completely spooked me for months afterwards. I stayed away from the hobby for about a year, literally lost sleep worrying over it, got the full battery of tests numerous times and broke into a cold sweat anytime I felt any sort of twinge down below. Definitely not worth the short, albeit warm, wet and velvety, few minutes of pleasure it afforded.

I suspect more of us have given into this urge than will admit it....the heat of the moment and all....But what about the SP???? Why would they allow it? That really doesn't make any sense whatsoever to me.

I've also noticed from my experiences outside North America that bbbj is all but universally offered and bbfs is readily available and at least, if not more, common than finding a bbbj in the GTA.

As for the risks, well I'm no doctor, but it would seem to me that any "hobby" has risks and we're all exposed to varying degrees depending on the frequency and type of services we obtain.

Regardless, I think its safe to say that in all cases, the risks are significantly higher for the SP/MPA than for us. Obviously this is something each SP/MPA should seriously consider and understand given their chosen profession. And something each of us should respect once a particular SP/MPA states what/where their limits are.

later,
h4p

 

[Twilight fan!!!]

Guy's, I wont pretend to have been out there a lot because for the most part, I gave up the MP scene cause of the money I don't have to waste. Having said that, no SP EVER offered ANYTHING above and beyond what is the "norm" and is legal. Is the hobby going to a more "dangerous" route?? IS this new??? If it is, then the MP scene is in danger because as much as we enjoy it, the minute MP's start playing with BBFS on a regular basis, people will get busted. MP's will be busted and laws may change. The general public doesn't understand probably 10% of what goes on in an MP, and if this all comes out, the morality brigade of society will have MPs shut down. As for your personal health, well, lets just say if she is offering you BBFS, how many guys has she had that day??? Will it take an AIDS outbreak from one MPA to knock a few peoples heads?? BBBJ is low risk but not totally without risk. BBFS is just plain stupid. Go to an Escort, probably she will be cheaper and safer in the long run.

 

[Petter]

Very good point Bearly....I think its the nature of our "hobby" that we constantly seek out new talent and push the envelope, but as you quite rightly point out, there is inherent danger in that.

And I'm not referring to the very real danger of STD's, but rather the danger you touched on about public exposure of our "hobby" and the resultant crack down that would surely follow.

One need not look further than the mid to late 90's at such fondly remembered clubs such as HOL and Fantasia. The "envelope" wasn't just pushed during these "heyday" years, its was torn wide open.

No doubt those of us fortunate enough to experience it enjoyed it and miss it to a degree, but the result was inevitable.

Can we change our collective approach to our beloved hobby, ie. the thrill of the "hunt", the constant pushing/testing of the limits, etc.? I doubt it....but let's not be too surprised or outraged when the inevitable brick-wall rears up and crashes down on us.

later,
h4p

 

[zangmo315]

I haven't seen it, but certainly haven't been looking.



And that is the real point. If you want such extensive "extras," that is where you should go for it.

MPs are sure to be a more expensive, more dangerous, and less satisfactory way of going for "extra extras."

1. They are more expensive in that you probably started with a $100 BS, and then have to add a further premium to "get more." In addition, the added risks to it will further boost the premium in a manner that wouldn't be relevant in an "escort" setting because it's ordinary service there.
2. They are more dangerous for "extra extras" in all the ways you have described, in terms of health risks, personal legal risks, and the wider-spread risks of crack-downs.
3. And it's likely to be less satisfactory, to boot, to get the "extra extras" at a MP. The typical MP timeframe involves 30 minutes, with the "wild stuff" being the last five minutes. Paying an extra $100 isn't going to extend that another thirty minutes the way it likely would with an escort. It's likely to be a (perhaps quite impressive) ending five minutes that you paid really a lot for.[/list=1]
   
   It's a Bad Deal all around.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Having been to several places, some of which have been discussed here before, I have been offered BBBJ often, and BBFS occasionally - about 80% of BJ experiences, and about 30% of FS experiences. - Asking the provider for protection is almost seen as an insult to a few of them the "what - you don't think I'm clean?" mentality.

When I enquire as to how many they have "serviced" that day, and receiving an answer (ranging from 0 to 5) I tell them I want the experience with THEM, not everyone else they know - if that still leaves them upset (and I have had providers walk out on me at that point), I either switch activities, and or leave.

If they or I leave on a bad note, I make it a point to speak DISCRETELY to the manager the next day, explaining the situation -- universally - they have appeared to be grateful, explaining they don't need the "heat" that this will bring. (Even from the lower-class Asian places, surprisingly).

The biggest problem is when the provider starts in without warning, the fee having been negotiated at the start of the session, you are relaxing, and then..... surprise!!

Westender

 

[ray- b]

hmmmm ... I just don't like to hear this shit. The same guys who are going for bbfs must at times also be seeing the same MPAs that we do right? I guess that is why I hate it when after a slide the MPA simply wipes down and does not take a shower. Sure she may spray on disinfectant, but I do not want to be the next guy slip sliding away ...

I gotta think about all this a little more ...

A sobered monkey (for 5 mins anyway )

 

[Ben Dover]

I have been offered and used the wrong head and accepted bbbj from an MPA. I never got anything from it (but enjoyment) but regreated it.

I was surprise and I think I can say the name because they are gone but Relax 2000 in Markham. The girls use to offer it upfront in their pricing for extras. I stopped going because I didn't want to be there when they got busted and they did.

Its to bad because the place was awesome and I miss Natasha.
They also offered MSOG for a one hour nude reverse.
Now I really miss Natasha.

Kurt

 

[Joann]

I've never been offered anything other then the normal extras at an MP. If I were offered a BJ, bareback or not, depending on the cost I might take it (I'm not overly worried about the risks of BB oral, so covered is her call) but only if she seemed into it beforehand.

 

[Sunsu]

My experience tells me that bbbj is something that happens or is specifically asked for. Bbfs often just starts happening because both of you are "into it" and nobody stops the action. It probably means "great sex" but risky results.

Sp's are as capable of losing their common sense as any of us johns.

Mp's and fssp's are becoming very much the same thing. The differences are narrowing. For many, they have always provided the same services.

Don't forget what you are dealing with -- johns and prostitutes, hookers etc. It's the age old profession.

Using terms like client, sp, lfe, mpa doesn't change what we are. And,that doesn't mean that it's bad or negative.

It's just the way it is. We are what we are.

This has always been, and will continue to be a risky business. Sex is risky. I guess that's part of the reason it's so much fun( for a little while).

 

[Ramya Reddy]

Boys, wake up you can still get a dose from a BBBJ. Cover it up unless you want Sir Henry to fall off:

http://www.mama-shop.com/oralsex/

 

[typical]

Well, not that much more. I would say ~140 - 160 for FS.





Why? I don't see how a SP is much safer...



Well, depends where you go. If you pay for "extra extras"... they ditch the massage and start right away ; )

 

[Pompal 09.]

Maybe I just go to different MP Gramage but Relax 2000 and Bella Studios became pretty upfront with extras and some others that I won't name because they are still around.

I have partaken in some extra extras but never again BB.

Some PM me on MSOG MPA and only MPA that are regulars have offered this. Natasha previously of Relax 2000 I don't know where shes gone offered this on my second visit to her. Minimum 1 hour no extra if I got the BS.

Have a great day massageplanet.netITES

Kurt

 

[tazman111]

You can say what you like but it all comes down to probability.

It is a know fact that BBBJ has a lower risk to get an STD. For this to happen either your wang or her mouth gums teeth would need to have some kind of open sore or bleeding going on. And if that is the case what the fuck are you doing man.

Saliva is not good at carrying STD's. Sexual fluids are. But even there the probability is that you can do BBFS and get away with it.

But for me the real pleasure in a BBBJ is blowing your wad in her mouth - and in my experience niether MPA's or Escorts go for that. So then what the fuck is that point right dad.

The real fear though is that you know if she offered you she offered every other guy all day fucking long. So does she brush or gargle between events. Cause if not then maybe there one unhealthy sperm hangin out in the back of here mouth thats just waiting to swim into your snake. Now that sounds like fun eh!!

You know you guys need to take breath here. If you are looking for BBBJ or GFE or love or what ever get a fucking girlfriend man.
Shit since I made one mental adjustment I got so many that I get whatever I want. And what is that you ask, spend the same amount of money on her that you do on the MPA.

Otherwise massage is what it is man. A little fun no stress some relaxation and lots of variety. Why push the envelope and fuck it up.

Anyway my 2 cents.

Enjoy!

 

[GOP PURITY]

But that's got its own problems too. If she brushes, that puts some stress on the gums, possibly throwing in a little bit of bleeding. Nothing dramatic or abnormal; just enough to throw a wrench in the works.

Bleeding gums = Not A Good Thing.