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Hi...anyone a member of the BBB? Do you feel that membership and its benefits are worth the investment? Basic membership for NH is $250...to include online membership, add $150.

I use the BBB quite often when researching a company.

Any thoughts?
 


Hey Hound, how's it going? :smt046 Roll over girl, so I can scratch your tummy....

J/K

I was a member of BBB last year. Interesting how it seems to be cheaper there than here, to renew it was going to cost me $444, possibly they set up that price for easy typing. I don't recall having the option of internet/no internet.

From what I remember, the gist of what they offer is free mediation to members if there is a claim. If someone is checking your business with the BBB, they'd get about the same response..."no claims, in good standing." If you were a member of BBB: "no claims, member is in good standing."

I decided to spend the money on other stuff, try to build the business. Durn shame that I was still a member when the phone book proof went to print, and the BBB logo is still on my ad. I was undecided at that point. Can't change it now.

I can't say that it helped at all. I can say that the Chamber of Commerce has helped. BNI has helped, Toastmasters has helped. ABMP is a neccessary evil. For insurance, they are not totally evil!

Lemmee know what you decide.
 


StressSolutions said:
Hey Hound, how's it going? :smt046 Roll over girl, so I can scratch your tummy....
Tis going fabulwoof! How's this?...instead of me rolling over, lol!

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Lemmee know what you decide.
Sure will...thanks for the info. :)
 


Now that's a cute pup, I don't care who you are, that's cute right there!
 


Only two people have voted, and I'm one of them...now that's just SAD! :lol:
 


Okay, I voted other.

I had no idea you join the BBB. I have never called the BBB. And I don't even really know how to get in touch with the BBB.

I do not live in a town that big. If someone has any questions about me they will not have to contact the BBB, they will just have to ask the nearest person, "What's the scoop" and really, it seems everyone knows the scoop on all the professionals in town.

(I don't have that interesting of a scoop)
 


I've never really used the BBB for anything before. I do find it interesting to learn people do. :)
 


Texas-gal said:
I've never really used the BBB for anything before. I do find it interesting to learn people do. :)

I did notice that when I was a member that there were several "checks" done...supposedly on my business. And when they try to get a business to renew, they will say: "there were 28 requests for information on your business alone." Well, by my going there looking around accounted for several of them.

Kind of misleading.
 


Thanks you guys...the poll was lonely. :) Thanks, too, for the honest feedback...tis very much appreciated.

akb said:
I had no idea you join the BBB.
Yes, well, apparantly you get to join by invitation only (that's their story, and their stickin' to it!). Companies that I've researched in the past (like a Title company for example) are still listed but many are not members. :?

(I don't have that interesting of a scoop)
:smt005
 


Yeah, well...that invitation only thing is kind of BS too. I met some people from the BBB at a small business resource fair (remember that, Denise?) and talked to them a while, and the next week they called to invite me. I might have expressed interest in joining.

They were kinda pushy to get the money right away, how was I to know it really was BBB, anyway? jeez.
 


For those interested in more info, here's a couple links to the Better Business Bureau:
http://www.bbb.org
http://www.bbbnh.org (New Hampshire)

My BBB story: In my example above, regarding a Title company I had done business with, there had been a complaint already filed...now there is mine added to it. My attempt at keeping prospective customers aware of this Title company's sub-standard and unprofessional business dealings. It was beyond my power to research this company prior, and this is a well established local company (I'll leave it at that).

Since I have used the BBB many times to research companies - to see if there have been any unresolved complaints about their business practices - I recently contacted them online to inquire about membership and asked that they send me more info. In the info packet I received, they mention the following: that the BBB is a non-profit organization that receives no government funding, that the NH BBB receives 400 calls per day and thousands of web hits per week (most are inquiries), their ability to do what they do is based soley on membership dues, and companies interested in joining are requested to fill out an application, as well as a background info check form before membership is granted.

What I already knew: that the purpose of the BBB is to follow-up on and attempt to resolve complaints that consumers have with companies - sort of like mediation, I guess. The BBB recommends that you deal with the company directly yourself prior to bringing them into the picture. Consumers can file complaints about a company that is/is not a member. Complaints filed against a company may not be true either, so the BBB investigates this as well. The intention of all of this is to hold businesses to a higher standard of practice.

The main issue now is how this relates to our profession and my human/animal practice in general. Excellence in client care and satisfaction is my priority. The BBB affiliation shows consumers that because a company is a BBB member, they should feel a certain level of confidence in doing business with that company. *BUT...from the responses to my poll, as well as the honest feedback, I'm really undecided now about joining.

P.S. Thanks again for the feedback, more thougts are welcome! :)
 


StressSolutions said:
Lemmee know what you decide.
Well...think I'm gonna hold off on joining for right now. This just isn't the priority that I thought it to be. And, there are so many other business-related areas vying for my finances. :|
 


The BBB is mostly a waste of time.

The biggest benefit is in being able to display their certificate that you are a member. It makes people "feel" safe.

The fact that they call themselves a "Bureau" is misleading. Many people think it's some sort of official governmental entity, but it's just a corporation.
 
Better Business Bureau

I just got a call to become accredited with the BBB in MA. they want 575$!! for the year. and after explaining all the benefits (which includes a 1 page 'website') she wanted to know right away which credit card I would be using! funny. anyway, I said I'd have to think about it and call back in a couple of days. Then I came here and found this thread.

any updates? has anyone "joined" the BBB? I personally have never used them. I always think of the BBB as a way to threaten a company you have a disagreement with, (LOL - "I'll report you to the BBB!") not a place to look for a massage therapist.
 
Better Business Bureau

Ellie, I haven't ever even considered joining the BBB. We are already up to our eyeballs in "membership fees" with two Chambers of Commerce and our Netweavers group, plus our ABMP and other business insurance. I do not think it would be a good means of advertising. We are discussing getting prepaid legal for our business soon (we have some issues with our landlord we'd REALLY like some help with before it comes time to renew our lease). I can't see anything the BBB could possibly do for us, personally, that can't be accomplished by one or more of our other "membership" situations.

Does anyone else get a little creeped out by the idea of paying for someone to help you maintain a good reputation? I dunno.... I expect to pay the Chamber of Commerce (the ones we have here are fabulous and well worth the money), but it kinds seems like I'm paying for someone to out in a good word for me, as far as what I understand the BBB to do, KWIM? I mean, if someone was really NOT a good business to do business with, they certainly wouldn't pay the BBB to tell folks that, now, would they? OTOH, there are thousands and probably hundreds of thousands of very solid, well-run businesses that do not pay the BBB to "tell the world" how good they are.
 
Better Business Bureau

I don't know many people that consult the BBB before choosing to do business with a company. That said, some people do check with them, so there may be a measure of value in BBB membership with those potential clients. However, (to my knowledge) BBB does not proactively market their members, so until a person contacts them with an inquiry, your membership fees are dead money.

We have also received several invitation phone calls, and I believe the requested fees were somewhat over $400. There are probably some regional price variations, but I don't really know if that alone accounts for the disparity in fees reported in this thread. We rejected the membership invitation based on the fact that it would require us to do at least 7 massages that were booked as a result of our BBB membership - just to break even. This seemed completely unlikely, so it made no sense for us to invest that kind of money in a BBB membership.
 
Better Business Bureau

I just had a wanna be client threaten to report me to the BBB for enforcing my no show policy. I am not a member, so I don't even know what good it would do
 
Better Business Bureau

I thought about joining the BBB for our online business, but really it was too expensive and I saw no value in it. As for MTs and for what we do, I don't think it is necessary.

Now a mover, contractor etc. I think you'd get more value out of a membership. People are more likely to research the BBB for those kind of services. I know I do, but the BBB is the last place I'd look to find info on a therapist or doctor for that matter.

Just my :2cents:
 
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Talenyn said:
I thought about joining the BBB for our online business, but really it was too expensive and I saw no value in it. As for MTs and for what we do, I don't think it is necessary.

Now a mover, contractor etc. I think you'd get more value out of a membership. People are more likely to research the BBB for those kind of services. I know I do, but the BBB is the last place I'd look to find info on a therapist or doctor for that matter.

Just my :2cents:
I agree and this is the main reason I ended up not joining.

We had a problem many moons ago with a Title company. When I researched them via BBB, they had a number of unresolved complaints against them. I researched AFTER we had the problem. Honestly, I haven't researched anybody else since then.

It's a useful tool to register and track a complaint. Is there another company where consumers can report complaints against a company with questionable business practices?

JLWmassage - I don't think a company needs to be a member to have complaints registered against them.
 
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    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธHellenCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  32. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” , Selena, Coco, Yoyo, Tina, Yui, Cici & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  33. New spring spa@:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–Sexy hot ๐ŸŒนJapanese ๐ŸŒนSingapore ๐ŸŒนgirls working ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹at Nu spring spa ๐Ÿ‘โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–
  34. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  35. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, NUR, PRIYA, MONIKA, LOLA LOVE MONICA, AMANDA, LUCY, PREETI, ANGELINA, SARIKA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  36. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, address:6262 hwy7 , unit #1 Vaughan, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bella ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  38. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mimi๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A captivating and alluring new massage girl from Korea whose elegance and c
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietna
  41. Paxton:
    Any Persian Milf out there?
  42. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6A4H8.ensuit rain shower available ๐Ÿ’„Sunny is very big boost sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice body slide,๐ŸŒนbeautiful girl long hair Mina can Reduce your pain,back walking,hot stone massage ๐ŸŒนnice friendly Lily strong massage open mind,really popular๐Ÿ”ฅmust try
  43. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE (10am to 8pm): is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. out! KITTY (12pm to 9pm): is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business
  44. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMAA, LUCY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUCY, TIFFANY & TINA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUCY is a cute young Vietnamese girl, 5โ€™1โ€, 50Kgs, with a full range of services available. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young cute Vivian 22โ€™s and young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks open mind, pretty EFG Ella and sweet Tina with curve body are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. lotushubspa:
    Spa AD ๐Ÿ’‹Lotus Hub Wellness๐Ÿ’‹ 10737 Yonge St, Unit 13, Richmond Hill, ON (Elgin Mills/Yonge)๏ผŒ 416-356-5876 Good morning, ๐Ÿ’‹ dear customers, today ๐Ÿ’‹ Lotus Spa ๐Ÿ’‹ arranges female masseuses. Different girls work every day. Today there is Lisa.๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’‹ from South Korea, Yuki from China, Mary๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from Taiwan. Please call 9052375885โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹ or 4163565876๐Ÿ’‹ SMS address 10737 Yonge St unit13 lotushubspa Post #366 Jan 2, 2025 Forum
  50. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Slim Sexy Chinese Coco & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Jasmine
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