Bill C-36, The Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act

[RubnTug]

With the passing of Bill C-36 , the ban on "Common Bawdy-Houses" is back under Bill C-36's The Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act, with the bawdy-house defined as "A place kept or occupied or resorted to by one or more persons, for the practice of acts of indecency!"

Doesn't this targets Massage parlours? Sex workers most of the time share a separate address, or prefer to work in places like Massage parlours, so they can work together for mutual safety. Under this law, that's not a legal option! Now, if a sex worker keeps a separate address to work from, it's considered a Bawdy-house. So now by LAW, sex workers can only work from their homes.

As a Hand job is defined as a sexual service in Bill-36C, does this mean visiting a massage parlour, NOW amounts to visiting a Bawdy house and can lead to criminal prosecution against an individual??

Need give your input to clarify this please.

 

[Massxprt]

Yes this is fundamentally the end of the Massage Parlours as we know them. The old "Bawdy-House" laws were what were termed "nuisance" laws. Now it all become criminal. As in criminal record that is available to employers. Criminal record that can deny you entry into the U.S. or just publicly avialbe information that can cause considerable shame to your life.

The two parties at greatest risk are purchasers of a "sexual service" and the owners of MP's who "live off the avails". Demand will plummet as anyone with anything to lose will stop going to MP's and as that happens owners will get prosecuted here and there and scare the others out of business.

Note the bill does not "define a sexual service" but Peter McKay in a statement at one of the hearings says that he feels that the supreme court has already defined massage parlor masturbation and strip club lap dancing as a sexual service. I've been to Sweden before and after this law passed. It is a squeaky clean place now. No MP's, strip clubs, ads for escorts....nothing.

There's a 50/50 chance that the law will run into problems in the supreme court but that will take three years. I don't think the law is actually in place at this very moment but it will be soon. Yes, girls can legally work on their own from their homes so long as no children are present. Customers still face criminal prosecution and yes, women will be at greater risk is patrons know where they live and they have no other people to back them up for safety. It's all about winning elections.

 

[JS17]

That's something you should ask an attorney as opposed to some dudes who frequent MP's on an internet forum.

I have a drinking buddy who practices criminal law and asked him about this. He said that it's probably not going to change anything in terms of policing practice. It's all about if the Crown believes they can get a conviction, otherwise, they're going to release without charge. After an arrest or two and release without charge, the police will stop arresting for that offense. (Who needs that kind of paperwork for nothing!)

So, while police will probably still be busting MP's that are using underage MPA's and victims of sex trafficking, and controlled by Organized Crime, the attendees of the spas are probably just going to still get a fright (as in a stern talking to saying that they can be charged, and will be arrested next time, etc... etc...) and then kicked to the curb without charge or arrest.

 

[js17]

If you're really that concerned, I'd ask a lawyer instead of dudes on teh internets who may or may not have vested interest in continuing to hobby or may or may not have intricate knowledge of the Canadian legal system.

I have a buddy who's a criminal lawyer, so I asked if he thought it would mean the end of massage parlors. He doesn't. He thinks it'll be the same-o same-o. Police just busting up places relating to underage, sex trafficked, drugs and gang offences.

... and if I do get arrested- at least I have an attorney to call who already knows the story.

 

[Unregistered]

Consult a lawyer, not some random sods on a board for guys looking for blowjobs.

 

[Unregistered]

I took 1 hour option she got naked and did the massage then I was allowed to massage her then the went back to do me and I got to rub her lower back again and then she did the happy ending for me...Nice clean place except she change for smaller towels I ask her about 4 hands she does not want to do it.With her new place forget the discount she ain't cheaper then the Chinese parlor ....too bad cause crossing half of Montreal to see her if not worth it for me.

 

[Unregistered]

If you're really that concerned, I'd ask a lawyer instead of dudes on teh internets who may or may not have vested interest in continuing to hobby or may or may not have intricate knowledge of the Canadian legal system.

I have a buddy who's a criminal lawyer, so I asked if he thought it would mean the end of massage parlors. He doesn't. He thinks it'll be the same-o same-o. Police just busting up places relating to underage, sex trafficked, drugs and gang offences.

... and if I do get arrested- at least I have an attorney to call who already knows the story.

That's nice to know, but I wouldn't risk getting my face flashed a cross the evening news when LE start busting up places without notice. IMHO It will be too much of a risk to hobby after the Bill 36-C come into effect. For those who are brave enough to risk it all, good luck to them. It was fun while it lasted, but the door is closing soon for the hobbyist

 

[Unregistered]

With the passing of Bill C-36 , the ban on "Common Bawdy-Houses" is back under Bill C-36's The Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act, with the bawdy-house defined as "A place kept or occupied or resorted to by one or more persons, for the practice of acts of indecency!"

Doesn't this targets Massage parlours? Sex workers most of the time share a separate address, or prefer to work in places like Massage parlours, so they can work together for mutual safety. Under this law, that's not a legal option! Now, if a sex worker keeps a separate address to work from, it's considered a Bawdy-house. So now by LAW, sex workers can only work from their homes.

As a Hand job is defined as a sexual service in Bill-36C, does this mean visiting a massage parlour, NOW amounts to visiting a Bawdy house and can lead to criminal prosecution against an individual??

Need give your input to clarify this please.

Curtains are coming down soon for Hobbying with the passing of Bill 36-C. I wouldn't risk that much for a hand job! The spa owners will tell otherwise to keep their businesses afloat. Common sense tells otherwise! Not worth the risk and the consequences. That's my two cents.

 

[pjclamwacker]

Unless Bill C-36 gets overturned in the Supreme Court, which will take years, I agree that anyone with anything to lose will stop going. The End Is Near.

 

[CHASE @ SP411]

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[Unregistered]

End of fun for Hobbyist :'(


ctvnews.ca/mobile/politics/senate-passes-controversial-prostitution-legislation-c-36-1.2087104

 

[BILL 36-C PASSED]

Bill 36-C received the Royal Assent on the 6th Nov, which means PROTECTION OF COMMUNITIES AND EXPLOITED PERSONS ACT becomes law in 30 days!!! :'(

 

[one.eyed.jizz.monster]

Unless Bill C-36 gets overturned in the Supreme Court, which will take years, I agree that anyone with anything to lose will stop going. The End Is Near.

Seconded!!!

 

[RubnTug]

Looks like I pissed offed some massage parlour owners by my question. I think it was a concern that was on most hobbyists minds. We Hobbyist are at greater risk for criminal prosecution than the MPA or SP. Better to get info and play SAFE and be SORRY later.

Any Hate mail to be addressed to, RubNTugAToutlookDOTcom

 

[Massxprt]

Looks like I pissed offed some massage parlour owners by my question. I think it was a concern that was on most hobbyists minds. We Hobbyist are at greater risk for criminal prosecution than the MPA or SP. Better to get info and play SAFE and be SORRY later.

Any Hate mail to be addressed to, RubNTugAToutlookDOTcom

Most MPA's are oblivious but more and more are cluing in. Important to remember that THEY have nothing to lose. A big fallacy of the law granting workers immunity is that they can step up attracting clients. In fact, their immunity is key to protecting the law in the supreme court.

The owners on the other hand are very culpable as too are the landlords. I know an owner of a strip club through a friend and they've ordered the girls to stop touching customers next week.

So beware. The MPA's can turn you in, or blackmail you and they're Scott free. I will enjoy the last few days then say hang it up until when and if the law changes.

 

[Bill C-36]

Any news or had anybody any problems after the Bill C-36 was passed?