Expansion opportunity, advice?

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I have an opportunity to rent a space $350/mo includes utilites. There is a small reception area and 2 rooms.

Room #1 is 10.5' x 10.5'

Room#2 is 12'x 15'

Neither room has a sink. In fact, the only sink is in the public restroom outside of the office door about 3 feet down the hall. The office is on the 2nd floor, there is an elevator. There is a nurse practitioner who does facials/botox/etc. next door, and attorney, and an insurance agent in the building.

Is it possible to run a massage biz out of an office space that lacks access to private sinks? If you have done it, what are your thoughts on it? I am looking to offer a couple colleagues to participate and cover the overhead. Each would operate as an IC and we would split the rent but be responsible for our own product, equipment, laundry, etc.

If this was your opportunity how would you go about it?
 
Expansion opportunity, advice?

My last office was in a similar building- 2nd floor, and the other occupants were mostly Attorneys & Life Insurance people. I didn't have a sink in my room, but did have access to a "slop sink" across the hall, and the bathroom sinks.
I only used the slop sink to wash my stones, and used the bathroom sink for my hands prior to sessions. I'd just use a paper towel on all door handles til I got back in the room.

When I first moved there, I did check into getting a sink installed in the room- wasn't possible because all the plumbing access was on the other side of the hallway.

The room worked well for what it was.
Since then I've moved to a place that we totally remodeled- added walls & sinks & countertops.

You should look into your plumbing issue- ask the landlord if you can install a sink somewhere. Landlord may say it's ok, but may put the cost on to you. I'd think it would be worth looking into.
Not sure how much plumbing itself would cost, but you can get a pretty inexpensive sink/vanity set from Home Depot (I got mine for $49, and only had to buy a faucet in addition)

$350 sounds like a good deal, esp if you can get someone to share the space with you!

Question about your space: How do people get upstairs? Is it just stairs, or is there elevator access?
when I was on the 2nd floor I did loose some clients who couldn't make it up that flight of stairs (bad knee, elderly...)
 
Expansion opportunity, advice?

MandesDen said:
Is it possible to run a massage biz out of an office space that lacks access to private sinks? If you have done it, what are your thoughts on it?


Yes. The building I am in is similar. There is a large restroom with three large stalls, two sinks and a shower facility, built special for the dance studio in our building.

I don't have sinks or a restroom in my office. I wash hands after... and again before starting each client, and this gives the client time to get situated on the table. I lock all of my doors anytime I leave the office - including when the client is getting on the table and I go wash my hands.

Clients know they can use the public restrooms, and since they are very, very, very clean - it has never been a problem.

Hope this helps.



12/05/11 - added a little punctuation.
 
Expansion opportunity, advice?

The rental rate is fantastic!

Yes - you can easily do your work without a sink in the room.
My "sink" is a stainless hot pot filled with water and a stainless bowl. It looks sharp and costs very little.
If you REALLY want a sink you can buy a portable sink - they cost around $800 and up. You plug them in for hot water and there is a seperate waste water reservoir that you would need to dump out. But they pretty much look like a plumbed sink.

Let us know what you decide!
 
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My 1st space was the same. I kept a towel on the bottom shelf of my hot towel cabinet to wipe my hands after each massage to protect the doors from oil on my way to the outside bathroom. It always took them longer to get dressed than it did for me to wash my hands, but as I put the hot towel on their back I'd say 'Just take your time getting up and enjoy this warmth. Get off the table slowly and take your time getting dressed as you may be a little dizzy which is normal after being so relaxed. I'm going to step out and wash my hands, but will be right back so let me know if you need anything'. They appreciate confirmation of cleanliness so it's a win win (if cleanliness isn't a word, it is now) lol
 
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I think this would be a great opportunity for you! I am in a similar space; 3 rooms (about 11x11) with a waiting room, on the third floor with insurance folks down the hall and various doctors through out the building. We have stairs and an elevator and the rest rooms are at the end of our hall (you have to have a key to access them, though).

The woman I rent my room from was able to have the landlords put a sink in the small hallway between two of the rooms which is useful for washing our hands but isn't the best set up for washing equipment which can be very noisy. I am considering taking items such as my foot bath and stone warmer/stones to the restrooms to wash if there are sessions going on when I need to clean them.

No sound proofing in the walls can be annoying when the other MT's are talking on their phones or with a client in the waiting room, but I'm going to put up a sign soon to remind folks to be quieter.

That rate is amazing! I pay very, very little for my monthly rent at my place but I'm pretty sure the MT who leases the space is paying at least $1000/month and I don't believe the utilities are included as we have to keep a close eye in the heat and AC use.

The fact that there is an elevator should prevent any issues with folks not being able to reach you, and the only downside would be if you are interested in walk-ins since you most likely won't have street visibility. I prefer not have walk-ins so that's not an issue for me and I like the professional atmosphere of being in a more medical/commercial oriented space.

Please let us know what you decided! :)
 
Expansion opportunity, advice?

Check you state/local regs regarding sink access for massage establishments.

That arrangement would not fly in some jurisdictions.
 
Expansion opportunity, advice?

i think we would have trouble if the only sink was in a restroom that might be occupied exactly when you need it. we are a spa in an office building but we have a sink in the hallway and kitchen that are always accessible. it also depends on what treatments you'll be doing and how much water you'll need. for instance if you're just doing regular massage you'd probably be okay. if you're going to do hot stone or body wraps or anything that might need significant water or dish washing you would probably need something to supplement.

also important...is the bathroom a single stall that you can be locked out of when in use, or are there many stalls and you can go in at any time? if it's single stall you could be locked out for 20-30 minutes if someone in your office sits on the toilet too long.

i like the ideas for the portable sink or the basin
 
Expansion opportunity, advice?

WOW!!! That is CHEAP! I pay $500 for 2 rooms in a shared suite. When you walk into the suite there's a shared lobby (I'm the only one that has ever used it since the other companies don't have clients that come to see them). Just past the lobby is a small hallway with my 2 rooms. The first room is my office/lounge and the room across the hall is my massage room. In the office room I have my desk, 2 chairs for clients and a small table with magazines and such and a water cooler for hot tea and water before or after the session. The bathroom is down a longer hallway next to a company that does home repairs. We also have a small kitchen area/break room. I use the sink in the break room for washing my hands and washing massage cups, stones, wetting towels for the cabi and washing dishes (I don't use paper cups).

I think the price is amazing. The other tenants seem like they would be quiet (my neighboring tenants are NOT) so I think if you feel good about it then go for it!
 
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    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jennifer -๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A talented and graceful new massage girl from Taiwan, offering a trul
  36. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,service queen Jessica friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…joey is very good looking,big breasted sweet sensual touch,amazing massage,really popular.beautiful long hair sexy Vietnamese Amy open maid,everything she can do,make you happy never forgot ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  37. JerryWangWw:
    Suko every day have different style 7 girls working here please call 905-597-8880 ๐Ÿคฉ ๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ“ž ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿคฉ
  38. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approachable
  39. H-MomoBeauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Turkish Persian girl Jasmine &big boobs ass thin waist Spanish girl in today
  40. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธCindy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธMei๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  42. hiyamickey:
    Friday we have 7 girls working at Reinella wellness, Address:6262 Hwy7 until #1 Vaughan, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  43. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 3 very hot girls today. Open 10am to 9pm: ANNA (1pm-9pm) : is a hot & sexy curvy girl from Vietnam with C Cups. Anna has strong massage & good service. MINA (12pm to 9pm): is a tall slim former model from Taiwan, with B Cups, pretty face, strong massage, bbbj fs, (special service), great services.
  44. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Kiki and suki works
  45. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Gold ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Mia,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vivi ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  46. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  47. OrchidSPA:
    Today we have Beautiful Girls Lucy & Mia. ๐Ÿ”ฅ Lucy is Hot and in her early 20's and is Very Beautiful. ๐ŸคฉMia is also a slim cute girl. Drop In and Enjoy A Delicious & Satisfying Experience Today! OPEN: 10am to 10:00pm ~ Call/Text โฉ๏ธ 437-220-6963 ~ Unit#103 3601 Highway 7, Markham, ON L3R 0M3
  48. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Grace๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A new alluring and skilled Asi
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young sweet Summer slime 30โ€™s and young fun Tina with curve body open mind, pretty GFE Lina and sexy coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. HollywoodSpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: TRACY & MICHICO. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. TRACY is a slim, taller & pretty lady, very friendly with an extensive menu. MICHICO is a young slim, beautiful
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