Fuzzy on starting private practice

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Hi folks,Graduation is a-comin! And I'm feeling both scared and excited at the same time. Unfortunately, our Business Class isn't addressing some areas I really would like information and help with: starting a private practice.I know the basics: DBAs, entity types, EIN application, sales tax issues for retail, bookkeeping. None of that stuff worries me, but that's exactly the type of thing our class focuses on.What about the real life nitty gritty logistics? Especially *startup*. How do actual people do it? How much money was needed, and where did it come from? What's your overhead like--what perceneforum.xxxe of your gross is your draw?It sounds like most MTs start out working at spas and such, transition into private practice, learning as they go. I'd LOVE to be able to learn from other people's mistakes, not reinvent the wheel, etc. I'd enjoy hearing general startup stories, how to make it work, etc. If you have anything specific to share, any pitfalls you wish someone had told you about, lessons learned, please post them!
 
Fuzzy on starting private practice

Nice. Did you later cut Sunday availability? After how long, and how did you manage that transition? Lose any clients over it?
 
Being available on Sundays built my practice faster than anything else;
I can imagine that. ุขย I have a lot of people who ask for Sunday appointments. ุขย However, I take off Sunday and Monday; possibly changing that to off on Sunday and Tuesdays, but that may be next year... we'll see. ุขย I have only rarely worked a Sunday, maybe 5 times in the past 12 years in the office -- however I will do hotel outcalls on a Sunday. ุขย But that is a different story... as I am on-call for a few upscale hotels that make it very much worth my while to come out to provide treatment to a client when their in-house spa is closed.Also, I'll get back to you later on your original question, when I get a chance to compile some good thoughts. ย :)
 
Fuzzy on starting private practice

EgoMagickian,

This is a pretty good bit of info on "start-up" costs:

Stacy,

Here are a few replies to your questions.

Are small business loans the way to go? ย 

If you are going to get a business loan, I'd suggest finding a CPA who can help you with this. Cost could range anywhere from $200 - $800. ย You should be able to find a CPA practice that is not too large and he/she can help you make a business plan etc - etc.

You'll need to check with your lending agency to see what info they require and if you need collateral backing you.

A loan can help when you don't have a part-time job or money backing you.

Should I focus on massage or offer spa treatments as well?

Depends on where you practice and the room you have. ย If you have a wet area (shower/bath) of course it will make it easier to offer these treatments. ย 

There are some spa things you can do without water and only moist towels. (Parafango comes to mind.)

There is also a steam cabinet you might want to use. ย 

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What is the most important item (other than a table,oils,etc) needed before starting a business? ย 

Table, lotion, sheets, pillows, a gown or two, some towels, music, foot stool, radio/CD player. Those should be enough to get you going.

Consider getting a receipt book system for your customers too. ย They may want to use you as a write off on their taxes, or even submit your services to an insurance company for reimbursement.

What is the best way to advertise? ย 

Word of mouth seems to be best, but this is slow at the start. ย 

Hand out those business cards and link up with some special people who will refer to you. ย 

You can also sometimes get a fairly inexpensive add in a local paper or holistic magazine.

How much money is needed to start up? ย 

A fair estimate so you are not in a huge pinch would be somewhere in the neighborhood of ~$10,000.00 ย (but this highly depends on where you are and what you want to do - you would have to sit down and make your own evaluation of your pocketbook, needs and wishes).

On a serious budget, it will all depend on if you rent, if you use your home, if you pay a split fee, things like that.

Let's look at some generalized costs and then you can see where you fit in.

Office space: $900/mo. ย You will need first and last months rent.

Business owners insurance: $50/mo.- You'll need this if you rent space.

Malpractice: $200/year

Flood Insurance: $350/year If you are in a flood plane.

Phones: $40 - 120/month Depending on if you use cell or straight office phones.

Air/Heat: $250/month

Supplies: $1,500 Things like - table, lotions, sheets, lamp, pens, pencils, appointment book, folders, computer program (if you use a comp), etc.

Laundry Detergent $15.00/month - hard to say on that one, I buy "Sun" detergent at Wal-mart for really cheap and it does a great job and lasts a long time, longer than a month I know... so hey, you can save a few bucks there and eat out! :)

Water for clients: $30/month

A few chairs for your clients to sit in: $60

Desk: $100

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And of course, you can do all of this a lot less expensive, if you just don't have the money - especially by looking at the thrift stores and whatnot. ย 

Hope that helps.
 
Fuzzy on starting private practice

i started working on sundays too. so far so good. last sunday i saw 4 clients
 
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    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lulu,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  38. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament April, Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Grace,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Selena ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Anika ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. New spring spa@:
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  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  41. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLuna Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  42. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, LILY and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  43. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธMariaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  44. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE : is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. BELLA : is a young & pretty Taiwanese girl, busty D Cup, curvy body, deep bbbj, cfk, dim, finger in
  45. Eva Vivian - Elegant Asian Sweetheart:
    ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Iโ€™m Eva Vivian, your independent open minded slim sexy massage girl available working in Scarborough and North York. Available to provide you massage and extra services at Hawaii Health Spa in Scarborough, Red Rose Health Spa in Scarborough and Greenway Spa in North York๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜ RED ROSE HEALTH SPA: โœ…Red Rose Health Spa @ 2 Invergordon Avenue in Scarboroughโœ… โ˜Ž๏ธ416-292-1268โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿ’ฏVivian available every Sunday and Monday from 10am to 9pm๐Ÿ’ฏ โ˜Ž๏ธCall Red Rose Health Spa 416-292-1268 to book
  46. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Slim Sexy Chinese Coco & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Jasmine
  47. HollywoodSpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™5โ€
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25โ€™s and young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks open mind, sexy Coco and sweet EFG Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
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