has anyone worked with heidi's fabulous fatigue fighter's?

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Just curious about your experiance. I'm researching different national oncall services. HFFF comes up often...
thanks
 


Welcome to the board, Kezza.
If you are just researching, that is fine, but wondering why you didn't mention any other oncall services you have "researched"?

(A friendly reminder that spamming is not allowed on this board, and business owners/affiliates that come on the board to advertise while "pretending" to be a third party is quite frowned upon).

I invite you to post an intro in our introductions section.
http://www.massageplanet.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=46
boofdorf
 


What is a national oncall service? And what is HFFFFFFF?
 


I'm probably just grumpy cause I'm older today than I was yesterday, but that reallly doesn't clear up anything for me. I'll have to do it the old fashioned way, google. happy birthday to me. :smt113 :smt114
6 months till Christmas. MK
 


I found heidi's site, heidi sez lots of stuff. Kind of hard to really find out what the gist is, the site is that bad.

I'd rather work for R&R or Stress Recess than Heidi and her FFFFFFFFFFF.
 


StressSolutions said:
I'm probably just grumpy cause I'm older today than I was yesterday, but that reallly doesn't clear up anything for me. I'll have to do it the old fashioned way, google. happy birthday to me. :smt113 :smt114
6 months till Christmas. MK

Happy Birthday, Mick! And if google is the old fashioned way of doing research, you are not old enough to be grumpy about your age!!! :wink:
 


Oh, that old-fashioned way is how I found the website, too, Mick. I just didn't want to post it here, especially since our original poster hasn't clarified if this is something they are actually interested in or is someone connected with the company trying to do some advertising. :roll:
 


Can you give us some more information on what you are looking for?
 


Kezza,
I have worked with Heidi's many, many times while living in the South. Basically, it's a chair outcall service for concert venues. I did chair massage backseforum.xxxe for many bands from Tommy Lee to the 'Down on the Mountain' Bluegrass Tour (the bands that performed on the "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou" soundtrack). Yes, you would be surprised at the number of musicians that want chair massage backseforum.xxxe. The next day, you call her and tell her how much you made and she asks for a certain % (which is low in my opinion).

The downside was she (or her secretary) usually calls the day or the day before the event. YOU take the money ($1 per minute) and sometimes the bands didn't want chair massage because it's offered (at their request) at every venue that can supply one.

The upside is that when you make money, it's pretty good. For example, once I made $500 (including tips) and all Heidi wanted from that is $70 and I was only there about 5 hours. Also, if you enjoy some of the bands, you get free backseforum.xxxe access and to hear the concert for free as well!

I personally liked Heidi (although some I've heard had problems with her). Mostly, I made good money but there was one show where I made $20 in 5 hours, so you just can't tell.

It isn't guaranteed, but if you got the extra time and enjoy doing chair massage, it may be just up your alley.
 
not the best multi tasker this week...

I posted a quickie as I was running out the door! I started researching for several reasons.
1. lately i've noticed a surge in recruiting therapists for what seems to be on site franchises (for lack of a better term) and/or lmt networks. "spa chicks on the go", heidi's fabulous fatigue fighters ffff.... and so on
2.I travel, good to have options...
3 I'm relocating next month...
I hope this validates my origional post

I'm interested in hearing other mt's experiences, pro's/cons, recomendations and advice.
I wonder about legalities and quality control. Some places were ready to send me out without ever asking for a resume, references or even proof of school! How scary is that? Get's ya thinkin'!
I'm open to any and all opinions.

and yes, i too am a crap speller and pretty much always give up on my grammer half way through
thanks for reading
kezza
p.s. Hey Boofdorf, chillout :smt045
 


"p.s. Hey Boofdorf, chillout :smt045"

If you're interested in any & all opinions/input, you might be interested in his too. He is a moderator on this forum, and is simply looking out for the best interest here.

jill/sagetherapist
 
lost in translation..

If you think my chillout statement meant that I reject boofdorf, then i apologize. but what u said is a bit much, don't you think? i'm sure he recognizes a little playful sarcasm.
Believe me, shameless spammer's who pollute and dillute quality forums should be called out on there shady opportunistic ways.
I was shocked at the immediate pounce followed by the "talk to the hand" vibe.
happy?
 


Kezza, don't worry about the boys above... they are just joking around about eachother... plus your post did need a little more information from the start, now hopefully you will get your answers, and welcome to the board!!!

Someone had just e-mailed me about my past post on "Heidi" so this was my response to them... and yes, no resume required... as well as other things see below... as far as I was concerned it was my you know what on the line not hers...

I am going to be very honest with you, even though I don't know you, but hopefully I am sticking up for all massage therapists out there. If you also noticed on that post, I took the conversation off line for privacy. The reason being, I worked for a woman named "Heidi" no last name, only a phone number. She never explained the "deal" to me previous to the event. I was fresh out of school and not licensed yet, but able to work in NJ (no requirements at the time), not NY. I did one event for her in NJ, that was my first and last, due to the disrespect she had for her therapists. She wanted me at the event at 5 PM, a place that was over an hour away, didn't tell me that I was only expecting 1 client who I massaged on my table for 30 minutes, I ended up getting 2 other 30 minute massages. I then waited till the concert was over, more than 5 hours later, not knowing that I shouldn't have stayed that long, had to then drive another 2 hours to get home because of the horrible road conditions. She then continued to call me repeatedly to get me to work at venues in NYC, which every time she called I told her, I don't have my license and will not be working anywhere in NY until I do. She then wanted a huge perceneforum.xxxe of my income from that 1 event, including what was tipped beyond her $1 per minute rate, which is well below the going rate in NYC metro area. I ended up making about $5-10 per hour after her cut. So in the end, never deal with this woman and hopefully she has realized that she needs to lose my phone number.

Oh and another problem I had with her, is that I needed to get a babysitter, and she kept wanting to know at that point in time if I would do the job, I would tell her this, call her back, and sorry we got someone else to do it... especially when she would call the day of, or the day before... and expect me to be available at her beck and call.

My suggestion is, go to http://www.amtamassage.org they have a locator service for massage therapists. Type in the Zip code of the venue and limit it to find someone who does chair massage. Call the therapist directly and make a deal with them, believe me you both will be a lot happier in the end. Don't work through one of these services unless you have been referred to one of them and then even so be leery.
 
thanks muriel

Wow. How awkward for you! I'm suprised someone can get away with running such a business. I guess if there is such a lack of regulating, you can pass anyone off as an mt. How strict are the laws in your state, as far as accredited programs, minimum liscensing requirments, and hiring processes? What did u think about the massage school you went to?
I went to school in SF. It was wonderful and halfass all at once! I probably was too at that time. ha ha..
So, what type of practice do you have? Do you do much outcall chairwork?
Thanks again for your post.
-kezza
 
lost in translation..

kezza said:
If you think my chillout statement meant that I reject boofdorf, then i apologize. but what u said is a bit much, don't you think? i'm sure he recognizes a little playful sarcasm.
Believe me, shameless spammer's who pollute and dillute quality forums should be called out on there shady opportunistic ways.
I was shocked at the immediate pounce followed by the "talk to the hand" vibe.
happy?

Hi Kezza,

I'm quite happy to find out you are genuinely interested in finding out about this topic as an interested MT, and sincerely apologize if my response hit you poorly. I would have to use all my fingers, toes, and most of my winter glove fingers to count the # of business/product owners that have come on the board saying "Gee, has anyone checked out the new Flimflam Massage Oil with genuine Dirty Sock Aromatherapy Concentrate? I hear it's great!!!" It is, 99% of the time, the first and only post they make on the board. (StressSolutions & Seforum.xxxgnant have also been around long enough to see dozens of those kind of posts, as well.)

That's why I invited you to post an introduction of yourself in the introduction's section, so we could see that you are an actual MT and not one of those said spammers.

I hope you get the information on this company that you are seeking and continue to join us in this community of MT's.

Sincerely, boofdorf
 


Kezza -

I live in NY, but work in NJ. NY requires a license, 1000 hours plus exam. At the time, I had the National Certificaiton and 600 hours. NJ is only starting to get the idea that they need regulation on Massage.

Heidi didn't care as long as you had hands and the equipment. Because she was annonymous as far as I knew... a first name and a cell phone number. So nothing could be traced back to her. I actually sat there for 2 hours waiting for no one to come because they had me set up in this back room with no posibility to walk by.

Now I primarily do pain relief work, and only use my chair when absolutely necessary. Mainly for demo's and health fairs. I prefer not to use it to make money. I can do 8 hours of table massage vs. 1 hour of chair...
 
thanks muriel

kezza said:
I went to school in SF. It was wonderful and halfass all at once! I probably was too at that time. ha ha..
-kezza


Your profile says you are in NYC. How did you get your NYS license? Not a single school in CA has a 1,000 program, and no one in the bay area is over 700.
 
thanks muriel

RelaxandRejuvenate said:
kezza said:
I went to school in SF. It was wonderful and halfass all at once! I probably was too at that time. ha ha..
-kezza


Your profile says you are in NYC. How did you get your NYS license? Not a single school in CA has a 1,000 program, and no one in the bay area is over 700.

While I think this is a very interesting question that might have an interesting answer, since kezza hasn't been here for the last 5yrs, we may have a bit of a wait... :undecided:

;)
 
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    Here's tomorrow's sneak peek: For Friday January 10, 2024, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿฅฐ, Opal ๐Ÿค—, Cici ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky โค๏ธ and Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ And our raffle promotion is still on! Call 905-479-6668 to book!
  30. lovefeetspa:
    Love feet spa ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’„๐Ÿ˜3641 wolfedale road Mississauga we have Vietnam girl and China girls we do relaxing massage deep tissue massage full body massage prostate massage 100% no hurry we girls hand soft body very smooth be make you happy phone โ˜Ž๏ธ 4169890520
  31. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธHellenCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  32. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” , Selena, Coco, Yoyo, Tina, Yui, Cici & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  33. New spring spa@:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–Sexy hot ๐ŸŒนJapanese ๐ŸŒนSingapore ๐ŸŒนgirls working ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹at Nu spring spa ๐Ÿ‘โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–
  34. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  35. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, NUR, PRIYA, MONIKA, LOLA LOVE MONICA, AMANDA, LUCY, PREETI, ANGELINA, SARIKA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  36. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, address:6262 hwy7 , unit #1 Vaughan, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bella ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  38. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mimi๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A captivating and alluring new massage girl from Korea whose elegance and c
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietna
  41. Paxton:
    Any Persian Milf out there?
  42. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6A4H8.ensuit rain shower available ๐Ÿ’„Sunny is very big boost sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice body slide,๐ŸŒนbeautiful girl long hair Mina can Reduce your pain,back walking,hot stone massage ๐ŸŒนnice friendly Lily strong massage open mind,really popular๐Ÿ”ฅmust try
  43. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE (10am to 8pm): is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. out! KITTY (12pm to 9pm): is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business
  44. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMAA, LUCY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUCY, TIFFANY & TINA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUCY is a cute young Vietnamese girl, 5โ€™1โ€, 50Kgs, with a full range of services available. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young cute Vivian 22โ€™s and young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks open mind, pretty EFG Ella and sweet Tina with curve body are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. lotushubspa:
    Spa AD ๐Ÿ’‹Lotus Hub Wellness๐Ÿ’‹ 10737 Yonge St, Unit 13, Richmond Hill, ON (Elgin Mills/Yonge)๏ผŒ 416-356-5876 Good morning, ๐Ÿ’‹ dear customers, today ๐Ÿ’‹ Lotus Spa ๐Ÿ’‹ arranges female masseuses. Different girls work every day. Today there is Lisa.๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’‹ from South Korea, Yuki from China, Mary๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from Taiwan. Please call 9052375885โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹ or 4163565876๐Ÿ’‹ SMS address 10737 Yonge St unit13 lotushubspa Post #366 Jan 2, 2025 Forum
  50. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Slim Sexy Chinese Coco & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Jasmine
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