Horse with possible tendon or ligament trouble

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Any ideas for helping out a horse with tendon or ligament
problems in the forelegs ?

My daughter's favorite horse (at a small riding stable we go to for lessons) has been side-lined for the past few weeks. While the vet has told the owner/riding instructor to let her rest & she's done that, plus polticing the legs, it doesn't seem as though there has been much improvement thus far. While this horse is used regularly for lessons, she isn't worked overly hard, and is very well cared for, so any help
would be wonderful.
 


Hi, I'm sure you have tried massage and energywork on it, correct? (injured horses really respond to both) if not, give it a go. There is also chiropractors for horses out there.

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Hi Kindred,
I was hoping you'd be chiming in. No equine bodywork
has been done to date. I'm not trained on working with
horses either. Strictly on an intuitive level, I feel
as though she may be pulled foreward slightly causing the
front legs to carry more weight than they should. She is a former racehorse as well, though the currant owner is only using her for lessons and horse shows. All the horses she has are extremely well loved & well treated, so no one is overworked. She had wanted to use her for jumping as well, but now feels that would definitely be to much stress to put on her.

As long as the owner wouldn't have a problem with it, & is willing to be alongside, I'd be happy to work a bit with her,
if there is something simple you could recommend until we can find someone who is trained to work with horses.
 


I have faith in your abilities. :)

It's really hard for me to give any kind of feedback because "ligament/tendon issues" is so broad of a descsription. I need to get my hands on that horse to really be of any help, lol.

Use the same kind of insight for the horse as you would use on a human body. Pick up a couple equine anatomy charts.

Just like with humans, tendon and ligament issues can take months upon months for marked improvement under the best of healing circumstances. And, if the horse keeps doing whatever activity she's doing that caused the injury, the problem will perpetuate and cause more compensating movements, posturing, and muscle/skeletal imbalance.

Race horses seem to end up with stifle issues. You mention that she appears to be bearing more weight on her forelegs...so, she may be compensating in her neck/shoulders and front legs, for a problem with the hind.

I like to use full hand friction on the lower legs and leg joints, as they are all pretty much bone, ligaments, and tendons. Another idea is for her to take a really good joint supplement...I've seen that help greatly.

Helpful info? ...I dunno, lol.
 


I saw the horse & owner tonight. It is apparently, the suspensary ligament on both forelegs that is the problem. I had already suspected that there could be some issue in the hind quarters which could have been forcing more weight to the front end. When I mentioned it to the owner she said that her mare is built with more of a downward slope, with more height to the hind quarters.

The vet told her the problem iss due to the impact of working on hard ground. We haven't had rain here in quite awhile, so the ground has been incredibly dry everywhere.

I'll try working on the problem,but would only do so with the owner next to the horse, while I see what I can accomplish. This horse is generally a bit skittish about having her legs handled, so we'll see how it goes !

If you can recommend a good joint supplement, please let me know what to suggest & I'll pass it on. Thank you for your helpful suggestions, its really appreciated !
 


Having trained race horses, the suspensory ligament issue is a HUGE issue for the physical soundness of the horse. It is actually a more severe injury, according to the raceway vets I used, than a bowed tendon or a strain. The ligament needs to really rest, really heal without much work [read that schooling, or use] other than hand walking to give it time to settle down and heal properly.

Check for a book on equine anatomy, if you don't already have one and look at the job the ligament is required to do. Use your energywork to enhance the healing already trying to start up in the area. If the horse won't permit it directly, then try doing it indirectly.

You mentioned that the owner is poulticing the leg....... is she using a mud-like poultice? If so, that might really help to draw out the inflammatory heat that sets in with that type of injury.

Way back in the day, we trained a colt for an owner who expectted him to pace in a high priced NY states colt stakes within 2 weeks of his having blown his R suspensory ligament. When the vet told him the colt would be lucky to race in 6 months with constant care and a decent layoff, the man pretty well came unglued about the vast amount of $$$$$ he had laid out in stakes payments, etc. BUT ---- the vet gave him the option to race him in 2 weeks and lame him up forever, or, do the layoff and have a colt that would still be able to race and hopefully win back some $$$$. Thankfully, the owner chose option B and the colt went on to win $185,000 in a short 4 months when he returned to the track.

Best suggestion is to take a lot of time with this horse and really gently bring it along slowly back to health. It will make the healing more strong, and more enduring..... at least that's the way it worked for me.
 


Thankyou Anastasia for the reply, I don't think the owner has used a mud poultice as yet. She has been icing down
the area for awhile as well as whatever type of poultice has
been used thus far. I've already been working on the energy work, indirectly so far. The horse has definitely felt the work when I start, as she reacts a bit skittishly each time she feels it begin. But she also looks sideways at me, and comes back over for more. Its been an interesting process on my end of it, just observing the "dance".

I believe the horse (named Tess) has been off-line now for
at least 5 or 6 weeks. Everytime the vet sees her, the
recommendation has been wait another 2 weeks and see how she's doing. He wants to see her not react to having
the foreleg tendon handled, which is a tough call for the owner as Tess has always been nervous about having her legs worked on. The owner has had her for 5 years or more
so she knows her horse well & lavishes her with lots of TLC.
She also trained for awhile to become vet, and has spent her life around horses, so she knows well that this is going to take its time to heal.

As ligaments & tendons can take more time to heal than a bone break, we are all aware that this injury is going to take its course to heal. My thought was that if massage, energy work, or possibly acupuncture could assist than I would see what info I could pass along to the owner, as it's up to her to decide the best course to take.

If any of you know of supplements which could aid the healing process please let me know. Thank you all again for your suggestions, I'm relying them all as we go !
 


riversinger said:
If you can recommend a good joint supplement, please let me know what to suggest & I'll pass it on. Thank you for your helpful suggestions, its really appreciated !
You're welcome! :)

Sounds like your doing some awesome work already, whoohoo! ...would love to hear more as you go, too.

One supplement is Cosequin (link for more info).

Another great one for soft tissue is MSM/methylsulfonylmethane. MSM (link 1) and MSM (link 2)


riversinger said:
He wants to see her not react to having the foreleg tendon handled, which is a tough call for the owner as Tess has always been nervous about having her legs worked on.
Have you tried doing any hands-off energy work on her legs? This might be one way of helping her ease into her legs being handled.
 


I've been doing energy work in person when I'm at the stable as well as distance work. (Using Jin Shin Jyutsu,
Reiki, & a general use "healing fog" as I like to call it !)

I start out with the Jin Shin Jyutsu points for horses, beginning with the centering moves:
Holding at the top of the withers & at the top of the sternum. This aids in establishing a connection, and starts the dialog with the animal. It's also helpful in many other ways as well, including letting go of abuse & neglect (which in Tess's case would be old history, prior to the currant owner). This can be used for any of our four-legged friends of course.

I will be checking with the owner to see if she is comfortable with me going in the stall myself to work with Tess, unless she is responding with a great deal of skittish behavior it should be an option. If she will relax then I may be able to accomplish getting the energetic flow moving through the lower forelegs and clear out the pain/energy blockage, so the healing can progress more quickly.

Jin Shin has been said to help cut the healing time of a fracture in half, so its worth a try !
 


for whatever it is worth...........

........... way back in the day, the vet we used when we raced at a thoroughbred/standardbred track in northern Kentucky told me the easiest way to get a "skittery" horse to settle in and let you near it is to treat it like another horse would when introducing itself as a friend......... snort into its nostrils .......go "prwhwooot" blowing air out of your mouth into or towards the horse's nostril........ OR, if you are really adventurous, exhale somewhat strongly through your nose into/toward the horse's nostril...............

Sounds crazier than all get out, but, with a couple of horses we raced it worked absolute wonders. They had the reputation for being "man-killers" that no one could handle, so, of course I did my thing and bless their hearts they followed me around like puppies...........

Anyway, just a thought

good luck with Tess!
 


AnastasiaB said:
Sounds crazier than all get out...
Nope, it doesn't...and I LOVE that!! I read about doing that somewhere a while back and do it sometimes when I first meet a horse (not necessarily in regard to working with them) but many times horses do this very thing with me. What an initmate feeling let me tell you, when a horse has her/his gigantic nostril up covering and hovering over your nose, mouth, eye and lashes...inhaling and exhaling. One of the very best gifts of life to me...give me goosebumps just thinking about it, lol. :)
 


:lol: Anastasia B.

That doesn't sound any crazier than anything else I've heard of after all these years. I'll give it a try & see what
kind of reaction I get & let you know what happens !
I'm game if Tess is !
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Thirsty Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” JBB Lulu, Selena, Coco, Yoyo, Tina, Yui, Sasa, Sara, Cici & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  33. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, SANA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  34. hiyamickey:
    6 girls working at Reinella wellness, Jenny, Angela, Queenie, Pinky, Grace, Sasha, @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  35. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo & Noor are her today ๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  36. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 open mind Cuban girl (Mimi ) &Asian girl in today
  37. Newspring@:
    โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธsexy hot Singapore ๐ŸŒธJapanese ๐ŸŒธindian girl working at๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“ Nu spring spa โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  38. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open to 9pm: *New Girl BELLA: is a cute European lady with blonde hair & blue eyes, busty E Cups, curvy body & sweet slow service. KITTY): is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business. Very friendly, no rush, dfk, bbbj, cim, cof, rim, titf*k
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,๐Ÿ’„Sunny is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slide ๐Ÿ’„ new girl Judy very good looking,big breasted service queen,girl friend experience,๐Ÿ’„Mina is long hair sexy ,she know what do you need,must try๐Ÿท๐Ÿท๐Ÿฅฐ
  40. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Summer -๐Ÿ”ฅA sexy sultry part time Korean student with a wild and crazy addictive pe
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong K
  42. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage kasa ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  43. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautiful
  44. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  45. Red Rose Spa:
    ASHA, ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ANAYA, ANGEL, LUCY, NISHA, MEERA, ANGELINA, NUR ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  46. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธFran๐ŸŒธCassy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  47. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธLuLu๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธJazminCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  48. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience. COCO medium build
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Jennifer & Tracy. Anida is a slim Asian babe with a small waist and great bum. Anita has excellent massage, oral and other skills. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true.
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธEMILY, LUCY & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services.
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