How to know when you need to sub-contract???

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Hi everyone!
I have been thinking lately about hiring a sub-contractor and I have no idea what to do or even if I should!! My situation is that I started my own practice 4 yrs ago and I have been doing quite well! I have a 4 yr old son and he really is my first priority, and I find myself haveing to really juggle work and family and I never really expected to get to the point of having to turn people away, but lately I have been crazy! My husband also owns his own buisness and I so a bit of work for that and I am going a bit NUTTY :smt119 That is why I am considering a sub contractor. Now my question is, how does it work, I mean people are being refered to ME, are they going to not want to see someone else? Now I do have a MT in mind that I would love to hire, she has been in the biz for over 12 yrs and she works at a spa, (where she really shouldn't be) and when asked why she isn't out on her own, she replyed that she really doesn't like the buisness aspect and likes to have a "pimp" :lol: so to speak. Now, I love the buisness and marketing aspect so I have no prob doing that, but what kind of thing do you work out?? I think that is it for now, just in need of assistance. Thanks in advance!
 


I am sooo in the same place with you. I, too, have a life (read family) outside of massage that is my priority. The family gets very jealous of what they consider "their" time. As well they should be. They are the balance, the touchstone, to your business.

I took over a massage practice in June from someone that had built it up over the past 5 years. So the client base is built in. I'm making a name for myself there (country club) in that I do a different type of massage in addition to the regular stress relieving massage that she did. I tend more toward RMI and problem prevention.

What I do when a client is wanting my services I try and channel them into times that work for me. That means 5 days a week and done by 2:30. If they are needing after that or the weekend, I let them know that my schedule is full during those times but if it's okay I have an on-call therapist that is available. Then I coordinate with her.

My goal is to eventually get enough clients coming through the room (we are a one room operation) that I hire another therapist that I can charge a % rather than just rent.

My advice is that if your client load is starting to compromise the quality of your work/your body AND starting to take time away from your family, then it's time.

Think of it this way... just cause you aren't rubbing on someone doesn't mean you aren't working. Taking care of the books and marketing is work too.
 
How to know when you need to sub-contract???

Moonstone said:
I never really expected to get to the point of having to turn people away, but lately I have been crazy!

Congratulations on your success!! So are you turning people away because you can't get them in the same week or are you two or three or six weeks booked out? Are you still working out of your home?

Moonstone said:
Now my question is, how does it work, I mean people are being refered to ME, are they going to not want to see someone else?

I was talking with Kneadfulthings recently and she made a great point to hire/contract with another MT who is better than you are, because then your clients will be in very good hands and they won't feel remorseful of the days they used to see you. At some point you will have to get someone else to join your business, and are you going to have them come over to your house to do business? At the point of adding a therapist to your business, you will probably want find a business location outside of your home, and start treating your business like a business where people get referred to the business and if they want a particular therapist then they schedule the appointment 4 weeks out (or whatever the next availability is for that therapist) and put their name on the cancellation list, or they go to another therapist in the same business.

Moonstone said:
Now, I love the buisness and marketing aspect so I have no prob doing that, but what kind of thing do you work out?? I think that is it for now, just in need of assistance.

I think it is time to think about the direction of your business. You have been at it for four years and it is successful. You offer massage, spa stuff, and energy work!!! It's time to expect your business to keep growing! What kind of work do you really want to focus on? How/Where do you want your business to grow? It might be time to consider renting/buying space if you are going to grow with other therapists involved. Otherwise you are just referring the referrals you get to another therapist for a one time fee.
 


All good questions and points akb!!
To answer your first question, I am booked about 3 weeks out, that is all I go into the future because I hate having people wait that long to get relief. So that is my personal policy.
As for the MT that I am looking at to hire, she is AMAZING, I would feel 100% confident that people would love her. And yes my buisness is in my home and I am looking into renting a studio that is right around the corner, it would be a studio, so we would split the time, but it is a great little place! I really need to start this now even thought I didn't think that I would do this for a few more years, but my husband and I are trying again for another baby and I want to be able to take some time off after the baby is born and not have to fell worried or guilty that my clients are anxiously awaiting my return!?? But another question is, what do you work out with shared space? If they are a sub contractor and you are doing the buisness and marketing end, what do you work out that they are still making good money, and that you are getting your part for everything??? I so have no idea how this all works. I also don't think that it would be a partnership due to the fact that I have been already building the biz for the last 4 years. Any info on the logistics?? Thanks again!
 


Sorry it took long to reply.

I'm sharing a space with 2 other therapists. Out of a country club. The deal that we worked out is that we split the rent BUT the other therapists were there before I was but they are strictly back up therapists. One sees her own clients out of the space and isn't taking on any new clients. The other one is a back up therapist for me and also sees her own clients out of there. We provide our own supplies (lotions etc.) and do our own laundry. I am responsible for rent (rents flow through me), and marketing and keeping the schedule.

The deal that I had with the therapist that I replaced (confusing I know) was that I gave her a perceneforum.xxxe of the clients that I saw, whether they were her clients or mine. But she was responsible for the rent and scheduling.

I plan on keeping the space that I'm in busy and as soon as the schedule gets busy enough (afternoon clients) I will be bringing in another therapist and charging them a perceneforum.xxxe but I retain the responsibility for the rent, scheduling, and marketing.

Depending on what the other therapist would provide (lotions, oils, room upkeep/cleaning) you would probably want to charge a lower/higher perceneforum.xxxe.
 
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    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Wednesday January 15, 2025, our attendants will be Carla ๐Ÿ‘, Opal ๐Ÿค—, Cici ๐Ÿ˜˜, Sandy ๐Ÿฅฐ and Yoyo ๐Ÿ”ฅ Come by and have an amazing massage!! Call 905-479-6668 to book
  36. New spring spa@:
    New spring spa@: โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot busty ๐ŸŒธlatino๐ŸŒธMalaysia ๐ŸŒธKorean ๐ŸŒธgirls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ
  37. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Coco -๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Our new sexy and slim massage girl Coco exudes elegance and allure, with
  38. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space
  39. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lulu,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  40. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament April, Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Grace,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Selena ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Anika ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  41. New spring spa@:
    โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot busty ๐ŸŒธlatino๐ŸŒธMalaysia ๐ŸŒธKorean ๐ŸŒธgirls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ
  42. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  43. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLuna Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  44. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, LILY and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  45. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธMariaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  46. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE : is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. BELLA : is a young & pretty Taiwanese girl, busty D Cup, curvy body, deep bbbj, cfk, dim, finger in
  47. Eva Vivian - Elegant Asian Sweetheart:
    ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Iโ€™m Eva Vivian, your independent open minded slim sexy massage girl available working in Scarborough and North York. Available to provide you massage and extra services at Hawaii Health Spa in Scarborough, Red Rose Health Spa in Scarborough and Greenway Spa in North York๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜ RED ROSE HEALTH SPA: โœ…Red Rose Health Spa @ 2 Invergordon Avenue in Scarboroughโœ… โ˜Ž๏ธ416-292-1268โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿ’ฏVivian available every Sunday and Monday from 10am to 9pm๐Ÿ’ฏ โ˜Ž๏ธCall Red Rose Health Spa 416-292-1268 to book
  48. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Slim Sexy Chinese Coco & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Jasmine
  49. HollywoodSpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™5โ€
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25โ€™s and young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks open mind, sexy Coco and sweet EFG Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
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