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I have just moved to a new area and have been on a few interviews, sent out several resumes and filled out many, many applications all with no luck. I am becoming quite frustrated. I would like to go into business for myself but cannot afford to lease a space for a year at this time. I prefer not to do outcalls as I have had bad experiences with that in the past, (clients not being there when I show up, canceling at the last minute , and one scary situation). Can anyone give me advice on the best way to start out? I have been a therapist for 5 years now and love what I do and don't want to change careers. I worked 3.5 years with a chiropractor until I found out he was charging $80-$120 an hour and only paying me $12.00 when I spoke to him about it he offered me $13.00 I gave him a months notice and left. After that I worked for a spa that would only call me during busy times Christmas, Valentines and Mother's Day. During that time I also worked for another therapist out of her office. She called me an independant contractor but I was more like an employee as she controlled every aspect of my work. She paid me $25.00 an hour, however she later changed her practice to a membership and wanted to cut my pay down to $15.00 an hr. I told that was not our original agreement. She agreed to pay me the $25.00 but then cut my clients way back until I had to quit. I am really starting to get frustrated with all this and am looking for any advice that would help me to be financially succesful in the field that I love. Thanks for any advice.
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"frustrated"
 


Maybe you could talk to sole practioners who rent space. See if they will rent to you on their days off. Also ask if they ever have overflow clients they can refer to you. If they sound interested, offer them a sample massage.
 
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kent's gal said:
I would like to go into business for myself but cannot afford to lease a space for a year at this time.

Can you let us know what you are able to do (affording a lease)? Maybe that would give some better leverage to get this thread rolling. Also, it may give you a better perspective regarding renting.
 


I am not sure what is the situation where you live, but here there are a lot of different options. In my building, we can rent rooms sharing between 2 practitioners and the rent is $189 sharing or $365 if you rent it by youself, no contracts. My friend rents a room in the morgage company office and shares it with someone. I know there are places you can rent a room by the hour from $10 to 25 per hour. There are many options and good resources would be craig list if you have it in your city and other massage therapists.
 
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Can you let us know what you are able to do (affording a lease)? Maybe that would give some better leverage to get this thread rolling. Also, it may give you a better perspective regarding renting.

At this time due to my recent move and not having much luck finding even part time work I could probably only afford to rent a room from someone else, for eg; hair salon, etc. My husband has not been able to find employment either and he has been in the construction trade for 20 yrs (so a bit scared right now of not making ends meet). As I am new to the area I have no clients of my own or a way to get referalls even, until I can find a way to get my foot in the door.

I also checked on Craigslist to see about finding an affordable room or someone to share a space with but there was nothing in my area.
Thanks for your help so far.
 
need advice

kent's gal said:
I worked 3.5 years with a chiropractor until I found out he was charging $80-$120 an hour and only paying me $12.00 when I spoke to him about it he offered me $13.00 I gave him a months notice and left.

I don't understand this.

It would seem you were content with the rate of pay - you stayed for 3.5 years so something must have been to your liking.

You only became disatisfied when you found out what the chiro charged for your services.

But why does this matter? So what how much the chiro makes, as long as you are content with your rate of pay. You seemed content with the rate, but became offended at the "unfairness" of the split. He even offered you an 8% raise, and you quit.

Before you go looking for work, you might want to take an inventory of what really matters to you, especially when it comes to compensation. If "fairness" - whatever that is - is more important than the rate, then you probably won't ever be happy working for anyone other than yourself.
 


I'd suggest for now just keep filling out those applications!

Would you like to work in a salon setting? Scope some out in the area, make an appointment for a hair cut or pedicure, talk with the people who work there while you are getting your service done. If they aren't hiring there, they may know of another place that's looking for a Therapist.

That would be something to start out with... just a thought...

Good luck to you!
 


Have you thought of renting space on commission only basis? For example, you give someone a massage and charge them $50. You would keep $25 and give the salon/room owner the other $25. There are different splits out there.
It may not be a bad idea to set a "ceiling" of how much you will pay b/c as you get busier this arrangement will be less beneficial to you and more to the other party as you will be paying them more and more money.
 


Um, maybe it's just me but nobody seems to have addressed this or asked this.
Kent's Gal, you mention you just moved to a new area... so I feel I have to ask the obvious. Are you licensed in the state of Florida?
If you are and have moved within the state I guess I would encourage you to keep at it. Contact chiropractors, dental offices, doctor's offices, spas, salons, gyms, other massage therapists... hopefully you will find someone who is willing to help you out by renting you a room. I know how difficult it can be to find a place to do massage in some areas. Keep looking for new options, and think outside the box.
If however you just moved to Florida from another state... Florida is notoriously strict on their regulations/requirements. And not holding a Florida license could be what's holding back employers or potential landlords from "snapping you up."
Anyway, I hope you are able to work something out soon. And please keep us advised as to your progress!
BTW, welcome to MassagePlanetL!
 


You mentioned that no rentals were listed on your local Craigslist. Since CL is free, why not run a "space wanted" ad yourself? Say what you want spacewise and what you are willing to pay -- you may get some calls that way too.
 


I know the area that you live in and it's a real "small town" place. Why not look for something in Orlando? Either space to rent, or a spa/clinic to work at. Though it's a 30 min drive, I'm sure you'd have better odds there, especially if you're passionate about your work.
 


Another thing - if there is a massage school in town you may want to check out their web site or physical message board. When I needed to find renters I posted an ad on one school's web site and took some flyers to the other school.
 
need advice

kent's gal said:
Can you let us know what you are able to do (affording a lease)? Maybe that would give some better leverage to get this thread rolling. Also, it may give you a better perspective regarding renting.

At this time due to my recent move and not having much luck finding even part time work I could probably only afford to rent a room from someone else, for eg; hair salon, etc.

Since you already have apps out, why not go through the phone book and contact every MT in your area. Ask if they are willing to let you rent a space by the hour. As mentioned above - you do a massage and give them half or whatever seems fair.

Or, rent their space on days or times they aren't there.

It'll take some foot work, but with Orlando close, you may have a lot of potential therapists to talk to.
 
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    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bella ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  38. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mimi๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A captivating and alluring new massage girl from Korea whose elegance and c
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietna
  41. Paxton:
    Any Persian Milf out there?
  42. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6A4H8.ensuit rain shower available ๐Ÿ’„Sunny is very big boost sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice body slide,๐ŸŒนbeautiful girl long hair Mina can Reduce your pain,back walking,hot stone massage ๐ŸŒนnice friendly Lily strong massage open mind,really popular๐Ÿ”ฅmust try
  43. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE (10am to 8pm): is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. out! KITTY (12pm to 9pm): is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business
  44. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMAA, LUCY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUCY, TIFFANY & TINA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUCY is a cute young Vietnamese girl, 5โ€™1โ€, 50Kgs, with a full range of services available. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young cute Vivian 22โ€™s and young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks open mind, pretty EFG Ella and sweet Tina with curve body are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. lotushubspa:
    Spa AD ๐Ÿ’‹Lotus Hub Wellness๐Ÿ’‹ 10737 Yonge St, Unit 13, Richmond Hill, ON (Elgin Mills/Yonge)๏ผŒ 416-356-5876 Good morning, ๐Ÿ’‹ dear customers, today ๐Ÿ’‹ Lotus Spa ๐Ÿ’‹ arranges female masseuses. Different girls work every day. Today there is Lisa.๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’‹ from South Korea, Yuki from China, Mary๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from Taiwan. Please call 9052375885โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹ or 4163565876๐Ÿ’‹ SMS address 10737 Yonge St unit13 lotushubspa Post #366 Jan 2, 2025 Forum
  50. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Slim Sexy Chinese Coco & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Jasmine
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