New Federal Laws concerning gift certs

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I got an email from Spaboom about new Federal laws concerning gift certificates. Did anyone else see that?

My question is this:

It appears that if your certificate isn't sold as a dollar amount, the new laws don't apply. Am i reading this wrong?

Seriously, all the laws that relate to GC's make me want to stop selling them.

And do fed law trump state law?
 
New Federal Laws concerning gift certs

I have not seen or heard this, though I haven't been checking.
Is there a way you could copy and paste the email to the forum?
 
New Federal Laws concerning gift certs

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you mean the amendment that went into effect on Aug.22 2010 and was recently added to the 2009 credit card law. You can read the government document here:

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/financialsvcs_dem/21malone_011_xml.pdf


And....in English...here:

http://www.franchise-update.com/article/1162/
 
New Federal Laws concerning gift certs

Seriously, all the laws that relate to GC's make me want to stop selling them.

I feel the same way! If only the law applied to big business, or at least to spas with employees & the like that would be one thing. But as a 1 woman show or even a 2 to 3 person practice, it becomes a burden to have to deal with GC's beyond a few months to a year. I rarely sell them & don't make a huge effort to do it either - so honestly it's not that big an issue for me - but still I've always thought that if a person who receives a certificate really wants to use it that a year is more than enough time to schedule their session!!!
 
New Federal Laws concerning gift certs

It appears that if your certificate isn't sold as a dollar amount, the new laws don't apply. Am i reading this wrong?

I believe this is correct!

Seriously, all the laws that relate to GC's make me want to stop selling them.

Ditto. I have been toying with the idea of discontinuing them for a while, and this has made that decision alot easier! I do actually sell ALOT of them, so it will be kind of a bummer, but I'm over it.
 
New Federal Laws concerning gift certs

riversinger said:
I feel the same way! If only the law applied to big business, or at least to spas with employees & the like that would be one thing. But as a 1 woman show or even a 2 to 3 person practice, it becomes a burden to have to deal with GC's beyond a few months to a year.


It's a burden for everyone - stupid is stupid, regardless of the number of employees. Larger businesses can't "afford" to comply with government bureaucracy any more than you can. every minute and dollar wasted is a minute and dollar not spent productively.
 
New Federal Laws concerning gift certs

And do fed law trump state law?

In most cases, state laws outrank federal laws (IF there is a state law concerning a subject, that is. If not, then the federal law rules.)
 
New Federal Laws concerning gift certs

kathryn said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you mean the amendment that went into effect on Aug.22 2010 and was recently added to the 2009 credit card law. You can read the government document here:

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/financialsvcs_dem/21malone_011_xml.pdf


And....in English...here:

http://www.franchise-update.com/article/1162/

Thanks for the links. I still feel like I don't completely understand the new amendment though. :(
 
New Federal Laws concerning gift certs

HEre is a copy of the email I got from Spaboom:

Dear Tiffany,

This Sunday, August 22nd, the new federal gift certificate law goes into effect. While you may follow federal legislation with heated interest, we have burned lots of midnight oil to learn about the new law so you can keep on running your business. This email will explain the basics of the law and the changes we have made.

New Gift Certificate Expiration Terms: The new law sets a five-year minimum term for most gift certificates sold in the United States. The new law does not shorten any minimum terms required by state law. The new law only lengthens terms that were previously less than five years to the new federal minimum term. If your state had a minimum term of seven years (I'm talking about you, Mass.), or does not permit any expiration date (CA, CT, FL, ME, MN, MT, NH, RI and WA), those terms still apply to your gift certificate sales. Otherwise, your new minimum gift certificate term is five years from date of issue, with a few exceptions.

What SpaBoom is doing to help you comply: After carefully studying the new rules we are making substantial changes and enhancements to our system to help your Instant Gift Certificates comply with the new law. Below is a summary of the changes we are making to the SpaBoom system, broken out by type of certificate. Starting this Sunday our system will handle expirations as follows, but please note that we are not changing any expiration dates for Instant Gift Certificates sold before August 22nd.

Dollar Value Gift Certificates: If your expiration date is set to less than five years, we will automatically change it to be five years from the date of issue. If your state forbids expiration dates, or requires a term greater than the new law mandates, we will set your gift certificate term according to our current understanding of your state's gift expiration law. We are using data provided by the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Service Gift Certificates: Gift Certificates redeemable for a service rather than a dollar value are not regulated by the new law. Therefore we will set the expiration dates for service Instant Gift Certificates according to our understanding of your state's expiration law.

Promotional Gift Certificates and Rewards: Gift certificates that are promotional or issued as part of a reward or loyalty program are exempt from the new federal expiration terms provided they meet certain requirements. Instant Gift Certificates sold at a discount through the SpaBoom system, given to charities or as rewards are labeled "Reward" on the face of the certificate.

Discounted Certificates: All Instant Gift Certificates sold at a discount will give you the option to create two expiration dates; the first expiration date is the date the promotion expires. You may set that date for any time period permitted by state law. Our default is one year. Those discounted certificates will also state "Funds expire on [date]". The funds expiration date is set according to our current understanding of your state's expiration law. For example, if you sell an Instant Gift Certificate with a face value of $50 for $40, the right to redeem it for $50 could expire in 90 days but you would be required to redeem it for $40 (the purchase price) for the minimum term your state law requires.
Free Gift Certificates: If you give an Instant Gift Certificate to a charity or organization it will be labeled "Reward" and you can set any expiration date you like for them. Be advised that some states (FL, LA and OR for example) require free gift certificates to be valid for minimum terms. The new federal law does not have any expiration requirements for such gift certificates. Our default is one year.
Offers: These are Instant Gift Certificates issued as rewards such as Buy-One-Get-One offers, or offers for a discounted purchase or free item (e.g., email, anniversary and birthday offers). You can set any expiration term for offers subject to state law. Our default is 60 days.
Things you should do: Neither this email nor any part of our services or system constitutes legal advice or opinions. Furthermore, we have not conducted exhaustive research into the laws of every state. Please check your state laws regarding gift certificate expiration and consult your accountant or legal counsel if you are unsure about how those laws apply to your business.

Please contact us for questions. If you are interested in learning more about the new gift law in glorious detail, check out our blog early next week when we will post a lengthy explanation of the Credit Card Act and how its gift provisions applies to small businesses.
 
New Federal Laws concerning gift certs

I don't sell GC for a dollar amount. And I don't really sell a lot maybe 25 a year. I am with all of you just one more headache to deal with
 
New Federal Laws concerning gift certs

I won't be selling for dollar amount anymore and reconsidering using Spaboom. I don't mind selling certs to clients who give them to other clients (spouses) because I know they are being used pretty much immediately.
 
New Federal Laws concerning gift certs

Softy, thanks for sharing that email from SpaBoom.

Since our state requires that the funds used to purchase expired, unredeemed gift certificated must be turned in to the state as "unclaimed funds", we don't set an expiration date on our GC's. We do only sell services, not dollar amounts, so the new regulations wouldn't apply to us anyway (confusing as they are).

I have, however, recently (FINALLY!) understood the notion that if a gift certificate was a donation (and not purchased; ie. no money changed hands), then we MAY put an expiration date on it. I need to discuss this concept with my business partner (Hubby), and make appropriate notes where necessary. I'm generally the only one handing out donated GC's anyway, LOL!
 
New Federal Laws concerning gift certs

Thank you for your imput (to all of you!) and thank you tiffany for posting the email you got from spa boom.

I don't sell many GC's myself, but the ones I usually sell are for a service, not an amount. I've always liked seeing a service or string of services listed rather than a $ amount in recieving GC's because I feel like the person giving it to me took the time to think about what I would really like rather than just "giving me money." my two cents about that haha!

I will continue with only listing the service, and reminding the buyer that the recipient will in the end have their choice of service with in the same price value, can pay the remainder of services that cost more, or that they can use partial credit until the amout of the original cert is met.

Good info though. I am glad it has been brought up!
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in
  33. lovefeetspa:
    Love feet spa ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’‹โค๏ธ3641 wolfedale road Mississauga โ˜Ž๏ธ4169890520 today we have 3 girls work one Vietnam girl Sophia 2 China girls ella and lily today we have dragon tendon massage relaxing massage deep tissue massage full body massage prostate massage girls age 25 to30 beautiful big boost smooth body soft hand 100% no rush you be happy
  34. hiyamickey:
    9 girls working at Reinella wellness, address:6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  35. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด:[/color] 3 Amazingly Hot Top Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE (10am-9pm) : is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. BELLA (12pm-9pm) : is a young & pretty Taiwanese girl, busty D Cup, curvy body, deep bbbj, cfk...
  36. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Slim Sexy Chinese Coco & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Jasmine
  37. Withme_Spa:
    WITHME SPA - TODAY WE HAVE VICTORIA, YOYO AND EMILY - SCARBOROUGH - 4386 Sheppard Ave E Unit W2 - 416-297-7488
  38. Eva Vivian - Elegant Asian Sweetheart:
    ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Iโ€™m Eva Vivian, your independent open minded slim sexy massage girl available working in Scarborough and North York. Available to provide you massage and extra services at Hawaii Health Spa in Scarborough and Greenway Spa in North York๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜ RED ROSE HEALTH SPA: โœ…Red Rose Health Spa @ 2 Invergordon Avenue in Scarboroughโœ… โ˜Ž๏ธ416-292-1268โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿ’ฏVivian available every Sunday from 10am to 9pm๐Ÿ’ฏ โ˜Ž๏ธCall Red Rose Health Spa 416-292-1268 to book appointment with Vivianโ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿ’‹Every massage avai
  39. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธJulianaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  40. New spring spa@:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty ๐ŸŒน ๐ŸŒน Singapore ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนMalaysia new girl 23 years old model for magazine ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน ๐ŸŒนworking call ask detail ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508
  41. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  42. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  43. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Emily๐Ÿ”ฅA sweet shy Korean executive secretary with a passion for pleasing. Excellen
  44. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Cindy๐Ÿ˜˜ - A stunning new massage girl f
  45. lotushubspa:
    Hi, Louts๐Ÿ’‹ recommends the best female masseuse to customers today, Anna๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from China Coco๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from Taiwan, Yuki๐Ÿ’‹ from South Korea, living at 10737 Yonge St Unit13. Please contact 9052375885โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹ or SMS 4163565876, ๐Ÿ’‹Thank you๐Ÿ’‹
  46. HollywoodSpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: BELLA & YUKI โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. BELLA is a slim beauty with nice melons, a slim waist, and round bottom. She knows how to make you very happy.
  47. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธYoYo๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธHellen Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Mia & Sophia. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services.
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young cute slime Summer and young pretty Lily 22โ€™s slime open mind, sexy Coco and sweet EFG Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
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