newbie therapist in need of advice! :)

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HELLO! I just graduated about 3 months ago, and I am having issues with my friends who were 'free' non-paying clients while i was in school, and now need to pay for therapy. any advice to help the transition?
I am also looking for new ways to advertise and market without seeming arrogant?
thanks!
 
newbie therapist in need of advice! :)

Can you be more specific about the "issues" you're having with your friends?
 
newbie therapist in need of advice! :)

There are different ways to handle the 'moochers'. One way to handle the 'freebie' friends (or family!) is to set a very short limit - perhaps 2 minutes. Even say with a laugh, but firmly: "Two minutes to remind you how good it feels and after that you have to make an appointment."

Bear in mind that what people get for free they seldom want to pay for afterwards, so you might have to seek a whole new lot of clients.

If you use the search function on MassagePlanetL, there are lots of threads on these topics. I am sorry but I don't have time to hunt this morning.
 
newbie therapist in need of advice! :)

MarionFM said:
There are different ways to handle the 'moochers'. One way to handle the 'freebie' friends (or family!) is to set a very short limit - perhaps 2 minutes. Even say with a laugh, but firmly: "Two minutes to remind you how good it feels and after that you have to make an appointment."

Bear in mind that what people get for free they seldom want to pay for afterwards, so you might have to seek a whole new lot of clients.

If you use the search function on MassagePlanetL, there are lots of threads on these topics. I am sorry but I don't have time to hunt this morning.

Here is a thread I found to get Eryn started...

"I'll be your guinea pig!"
http://www.massageplanet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=13507"

I seem to remember a thread that mentioned thanking your practice people by giving them a chance to earn "free massage" by referring new clients to you. Refer x number of people get a free 1 hr massage, etc.

I also seem to remember someone mentioning using this "waiting list" of people to be your guinea pigs when you want to change something about your massage... for instance practice a new modality on them?

I hope you find a way to work this list of early supporters (emotionally) into fans of your work who support you financially. Please keep us posted on how it goes for you!
 
newbie therapist in need of advice! :)

Thank you guys for your advice and links. They both did help. I figure as long as I create clear boundaries thru communication, I should be okay. I have plenty of people who are willing to pay, but sometimes feel bad for making my good friends pay, ya know? BUT, this is how I make my living. So it must be done. :) Thanks again.
Bless.
 
newbie therapist in need of advice! :)

healingfaerie said:
I figure as long as I create clear boundaries thru communication, I should be okay. I have plenty of people who are willing to pay, but sometimes feel bad for making my good friends pay, ya know? BUT, this is how I make my living. So it must be done. :)

Yes, it must be done. The way I set that boundary in my practice (and how I will explain it to friends if/when the issue comes up) is this: "Having me as your massage therapist is not a condition I place on our friendship. If you choose me to be your massage therapist, I appreciate that and will do my best work with you as I would with any other client; by the same token, I don't offer any special pricing etc. over what I would offer to any other client."

I have a lot of friends who get massage regularly - some from me and some not. It's their choice and has no impact on our friendship.

That said, I have been known to do a few minutes of massage here and there to get a friend out of "crisis" - like the time a group of friends and I were on vacation together and one of my friends had a sciatic issue acting up; I was happy to spend 5 minutes releasing his piriformis to clear up the issue temporarily until he could get back to his regular MT once he got home. I'd rather do that than spend my entire vacation watching a good friend limp around in pain. LOL
 
newbie therapist in need of advice! :)

maestra said:
I seem to remember a thread that mentioned thanking your practice people by giving them a chance to earn "free massage" by referring new clients to you. Refer x number of people get a free 1 hr massage, etc.

This is great advice too! One thing I did when I first started out was offer to "trade" massage with friends if they would help me do things like put up flyers, help work my booth at a street fair, etc. - stuff that would assist with my marketing but that I couldn't, at that time, afford to pay $ for.
 
newbie therapist in need of advice! :)

PETE! great idea! i'm HUGE into the bartering system as well, and this plays nicely into it all. Thank you! :) Good compromising
 
newbie therapist in need of advice! :)

I also LOVE the idea of bartering.

I handle it this way:

First, I come up with a list of things I need/want enough to be willing to pay for. Do this BEFORE you are approached with a possible barter situation; this way, you're prepared without being put on the spot. (Good candidates to get your brainstorming juices flowing: massage therapy, acupuncture, hair color/cut/style, house cleaning, Whole Foods discounts, auto mechanic work, website design/build, advertising space, music lessons, handyman work, hand-made jewelry, petsitting/babysitting, etc. Heck I've bartered for chiropractic, ham/amateur radio gear, marketing/coaching/development, and lawn care LOL. My own list now consists of front desk/reception help and yoga/martial arts classes/instruction.)

Then, I show this list to anyone who indicates financial stress (caveat - anyone RELIABLE, down-to-earth/drama-free - go with your GUT on this one, and really listen to it). Maybe they can't pay for it out of pocket but they've got an amazing skill.

I repeat, be careful who you approach the subject with. No crazy/unstable people, flaky people, freebie-seeking people, etc.

Don't let yourself get talked into things that aren't on your list. I couldn't believe some of the inquiries we got - some people have no standards and no clue about your value. Don't be afraid to communicate it.

If they don't have anything I need, I give to those who give back - you can easily make business/post cards that have a "Thank you for your referrals!" message on them and hand them out by the handful (or keep them at your desk for clients to take) to clients. For every [x] number of new paying clients they refer, they get [x] amount off their next massage OR they get [x] extra add-on treatment at no cost (I typically prefer the latter, so as to avoid being seen as a discount person or otherwise degrade my services).

If they can't barter and can't refer, it's full price baby :)
 
newbie therapist in need of advice! :)

That was just what I needed to read jyoti . Thank very much for the advice on bartering.
 
newbie therapist in need of advice! :)

I've made it a practice not to do treatments on friends & family. I think it makes life simpler. I refer them to another therapist.
 
newbie therapist in need of advice! :)

Offering trade is a great way to handle this. You could also consider having a 'friends and family' discount if you want, that way it's easier to break it to them that they are going to have to start paying.

As far as marketing ideas, 'refer a friend' deals can be very beneficial. Don't underestimate the power of word-of-mouth.
Being active on sites like Yelp can help too, and simply reminding your clients that a review on Yelp can really help you.
Other social media such as Facebook and Twitter can be great too, with some time and practice.
You could experiment with online advertising too.

Best of luck, and let us know how it goes!
 
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  33. Sunrise Spa:
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  34. hiyamickey:
    9 girls working at Reinella wellness, 45 minutes $45 , 60 minutes $55, 90 minutes $85 Address: 6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  35. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young cute Mondy and young pretty Lily 22โ€™s slime open mind, sexy Coco and sweet EFG Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  36. New spring spa@:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–Sexy hot ๐ŸŒนSingapore ๐ŸŒนJapanese model girl 170cm sexy and hot ๐ŸŒนkorean๐ŸŒนgirls working ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹at Nu spring spa ๐Ÿ‘โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–
  37. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensualit
  38. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ”ฅ Wonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)L6a 4H8,Please โ˜Ž๏ธ4165000-800,Ensuit rain shower now is available ,every day 4 nice girls working๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,everything she can do,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is younge sexy girl beautiful face long leg,nice body slide,really popular girl๐Ÿ’„very big boobs Mina,deep tussiue massage and hot stone,back walking and relaxing massage,give you very Comfortable warm time๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Rose๐ŸŒน - A sexy new addition to our line
  40. HollywoodSpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: MIMI, SISI & TRACY. โ˜Ž๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฐโ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. MIMI is a slim Chinese hottie with a great ass and liberal services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Tiffany, Yumi & Cindy. Tiffany is a very slim, tall, young & beautiful lady. Donโ€™t miss out on this top tier honey. Yumi is a young half Chinese/half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services... Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups
  42. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Kelly ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  43. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts Ivy, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: LUCY, YOYO & CINDY. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. YOYO is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups & a VERY sexy figure. She provides the best versatile PSE services. (Shhh, donโ€™t tell anyone: YOYO is a hidden GEM, & total SUPERSTAR!
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Taiwanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses with
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ:JENNIFER, LILY & CINDY. JENNIFER is slim and curvy, with long dark hair, land nice services. Lily is a young, extremely sexy Vietnamese beauty, very slender, standing 5โ€™4โ€ with perky C Cups, slim waist, amazing ass, & model walk. Lily is a real beauty who can make you very satisfied.
  47. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : BEBE (10am-9pm) : is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. BELLA (10am-9pm) : is a young & pretty Taiwanese girl, busty D Cup, curvy body, deep bbbj
  48. JerryWangWw:
    Suko spa every day have 7 different masseuse working here please call 905-597-8880 ๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–
  49. Eva Vivian - Elegant Asian Sweetheart:
    ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Iโ€™m Eva Vivian, your independent open minded slim sexy massage girl available working in Scarborough and North York. Available to provide you massage and extra services at Hawaii Health Spa in Scarborough and Greenway Spa in North York๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜ RED ROSE HEALTH SPA: โœ…Red Rose Health Spa @ 2 Invergordon Avenue in Scarboroughโœ… โ˜Ž๏ธ416-292-1268โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿ’ฏVivian available every Sunday and Monday from 10am to 9pm๐Ÿ’ฏ โ˜Ž๏ธCall Red Rose Health Spa 416-292-1268 to book appointment with Vivianโ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿ’‹Every m
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, HELLEN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. HELLEN is a young & friendly lady with nice boobs and a slim body. She can do slide & daty & perform all kinds of services. LUCY is a cute young Viet
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