Post Natal Depression

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Hi, Does anyone have any experience with treating post natal depression. I have a lady coming for her first treatment next week and I would like to be a little more prepared. If anyone had treated someone and has has a good results would you give me a little advice on what arears to treat and how to handle her, I don't want to say the worng thing. Apparently she has it really bad.
Any advice would be welcoming.
 
Hi purplepeach

What treatment are you going to be given her?

I had post natal depression 20 years ago. I can still remember to this day how awful I felt.I very luckily had it only for four months.A lot of mums have it for so much longer. Because they dont know about PND or do not go and get help earlier enough.I was on antidepressants for three of those four months.

I was crying nearly all day every day.I felt a black cloud had descended down on me. I felt totally helpless. I wanted to end my life. Even to the extent I was planning how I was going to end my life.

I just wanted my life, to go back as it was before my daughter was born.

What helped me was the antidepressants.I had total support and understanding from my husband my mum and family. They totally supported me through those four months of what I now call fog.Also I had some help from another mum who suffered from PND over the phone. From the PND society in London. If I did not have all the support.I do not think I would be hear today.

My advice would be, for that lady is to get in touch with the PND society in London. If I can find the number I will post it.Talk to her health visitor to see if there are any mums that are going through it or have had PND. I found just talking to someone who had gone through helped me so much.

You say you dont want to say the wrong thing. All I can say is you dont neccessarily have to say anything. But if you could encourage her to talk about how she is truely feeling.I do mean what she is really feeling. A lot of mums will just say they are very tired and weepy.Thats normal.You could gently ask her if she feels she wants to take her own life. If she says yes. She urgently needs help.If she has not told her doctor or health visitor this. Please encourage her to do so.As soon as poss.

PND can effect anyone. I am a very positive happy person. I always have been. I was looking forward to my first child. So when I was struck down with this depression. It was the most awful thing to happen to me. No one can say who will get it.They say it is caused by your hormones. A sort of imbalance after you give birth.

This did put me off wanting another child. It took another 6 years before I could even think about having another child. The experience was so bad.

I did go onto having another daughter. Thankfully I had no depression that time.

I hope this has helped. If you need any more help just ask.Can you just tell her from me. She will get better. It takes time. A lot of support. Also for me antidepressants.

Best wishes
Sunrise
 
Hi purplepeach

I forgot they now call it post natal illness not depression.Even though you are depressed. They class it as an illness.Mums DO get better. Even though you think you never will.

My heart goes out to that lady. As I know totally how she is feeling.

Here is the info

www.apni.org

email [email protected]

Telephone 020 7386 0868

Office hours Mon-Fri 10-2pm
Tues -Thurs 10-5pm

145 Fullham Road
Fullham
London
SW6 7EB

YOU CAN HAVE SUPPORT BY TELEPHONE,EMAIL OR POST.

Sunrise
 
Thanks for your reply 'Sunrise' I will pass on the information to her if she asks for it. I don't want to push anything on her. I'd rather it came naturally for her to enquire. She does have a loving family who are concerned for her.

She is coming to me for reflexology to to give her some 'me time' and some relaxation. I wanted what areas would be best to treat or is it just a general treatment she needs. Thanks again for the info.
 
Hi purplepeach

I so love your name.

Reflexology will be so go for her.Some time for herself. Thats great. I cant help you with what area to treat.As I dont know much about reflexology.Its good that she has a loving family.

Thats fine about not wanting to push anything on her.Maybe you could print off that info about the PNI. Maybe you could give it to her.

Best wishes
Sunrise
 
Hi
I am a reflexologist. I suffered with PND for a short period thankfully. But also suffered with depression prior to this a year or so before due to a divorce etc.

I would stimulate the head and brain areas. Her hormones need to be balanced and this will hopefully help to do this. The solar plexus to help relax. the pituitary and hormonal system to help hormonal imbalance. Adrenals for stress, liver for removal of toxins. Thyroid gland - thyroid imbalances can lead to changes in metabolism and behaviour. Working the respiratory system and circulatory system can have a calming effect too.
Hope this is of help.

Normally I work the whole foot and where there is an area that needs extra work such as the above I go back on it and work it some more - but go gently.

Some people suffer with insomnia when suffering with PND so all the above reflexes are good for that too.

If she is having palpatations like I did again these can all help to reduce stress levels.

I had a client recently who lost a baby (very early on but still very traumatic) and she did not have any counselling - she was not offered it. I suggested so went back to her doctor and insist she gets it. No counselling was offered by the hospital or the GP surgery. This so important. Sometimes better to get counselling rather than speak to family - family are great support but sometimes it is good to get a third person who won't judge to speak to you and sometimes it is good to get out of the house too.

I found eating healthily was beneficial. I started exercising and getting out of the house daily even if it was just around the block! Then I started doing the odd class here and there, that is when I did an introductory course in reflexology and loved it so went on to do the diploma!!

I also started cutting down on caffeine, and chocolate and boy do I love my choccies, I started eating all the fruits like strawberries, blueberries and raspberries - these are well known for lifting the mood - and also seeds, I used to put them in a yoghurt - pumpkin seeds, a few brazil nuts, (careful these are high in fat) and also some sesame seeds and sunflower seeds. I got out in the fresh air and I am feeling fine now.
Good luck and best wishes
T x
 
Hi Purplepeach

I have just read your post and great reply from Sunrise, I also think it would be a good idea to print both the emails she sent - you could just say that as you don't have much experience with PNI that you have asked for some advice that could perhaps help her and leave it at that, she can take it or leave it but at least she knows that as her reflexologyst you have gone to this trouble to be kind and helpful beyond just the treatment itself. Personally I would be quite touched with your caring and also with such a lovely response.

I'm sure reflexology will help a lot physically and pschologically.


Leah x
 
Hi purplepeach
No worries I just pick up lots of things as you often do with reflexology through lots of reading. I find alot of it too is from personal experience but some foods don't suit some people - depending on their usual diet - some people are not good with nuts and seeds etc. Sometimes it is trial and error.
Best wishes
T x
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong
  37. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธMeiCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธBree Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Ella is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slim,Joey is very good looking,big breasted service queen,Amy is long hair provide a very good massage with...
  41. Fullssss:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๐Ÿˆต
  42. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mia & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj like a queen, and is open to dfk and cfs. Sasa is slim
  44. HolidaySpa:
    3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ LINA, YOYO & CINDY. [/color] Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. YOYO is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups and a very sexy figure. She provides the best versatile PSE services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a nice smile
  45. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  46. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Phoenix , Nayla & Sasa are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Tina 30โ€™s with curve body open mind and young slime Summer 30โ€™s, pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Nana, Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Vicky๐ŸฅฐA new arrival at our branch ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ‘ฏโ€โ™€๏ธVicky is a very young CBC part time student working for tuition fees and books, this bright young sexy girl is willing to showcase her eagerness to please AND be pleased. Busty 36DD boobs
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Jessica 155 cm, 90Ibs Pretty Girl with amazing personality and super easy to get along Sasa Sexy Vietnamese Body Type She is very sweet Provides Excellent Customer Service Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
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