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As always I look forward to your comments.

A prospective client phones and tells you that they would like to try Reflexology for a persistent problem and could you help. They go on to say that they are a devout christian and do not agree with such therapies as acupuncture or "any other eastern thing."

Your answer would be........?
 
Well they can't be entirely against it to have phoned to ask about having a treatment! Think I'd just make the point that its a therapy that is used by all sorts of people regardless of their race or religion, its not an 'eastern' thing, and if they think it can help then to try it.
 
I don't do reflexology but I've had this kind of thing when people call for hypnotherapy or healing.

I usually just respond by explaining what the therapy is (and what it isn't), answer any questions or concerns they may have, then leave it up to them to decide whether they still want an appointment.
Hope that helps,
With love,
Amber
 
Hi,
Their persistant problem might be their attitude - expect stiff, inflexible ankles to start with!
Regarding religion - you could explain that current practitioners are trained to the level of the national occupational standards IE recognised by the UK government which had no religious connotations. You could go on to say that reflexology was originally brought to the UK by an american...but then you might get more problems!
 
This is a good one!

I think you have to be totally honest here and explain to them what Reflexology means to you, after all it's holistic, treating mind, body and soul. They could have a problem with that one. I'd be worried that they said that they didn't agree with acupuncture as Reflexology works on pressure points linked with organs and systems of the body just as meridians are.

Like Amber Lady says,just expain what it is and how it works and let them decide.
 
Hi, i would just explane what reflexology is and what it does, i am a christian and i have come up against things from people at my church when they know what i do, but i find people jump to the wrong ider about reflexology and indian head massage just becouse they don't understand it so they make wrong jugements.
as a christian i don't see a problem with holistic treatments but some people think the wrong things just through them not understanding.
 
Mostly I think it's fear of the unknown. They worry it might smack of 'black magic' and be commiting a sin. I'm quite sure once you have explained what it is you do and answer any of their questions everything will be fine.
 
I totally agree with the other comments. If I was in the situation you mention then I'd say that reflexology is non-denominational and open to people of all all walks of life, including those that have a chosen philosophy, religion or lifestyle.

I would wonder why they had inquired about reflexology, as it did originate in the East, though perhaps they wouldn't know that. If they had any further doubtI'd briefly describe what a treatment entailed.....perhaps they would have visions of being pummelled and trodden on by an oriental wearing a tiger skin loincloth??
 
My Vicar's wife used to practice all sorts of Holistic therapies - Massage, Reflexology, Indian Head Massage and Aromatherapy. Surely to a well-balanced person, it is possible to be a Christian but still believe that your body has it's own energies!
 
Hi all, thank you for your comments, very interesting. I did explain to the client what the treatment would involve, where it originated from and the principles involved, and asked if she was happy with that which she was. The treatment itself was enjoyable and did have some positive results. The reason for the enquiry was a referral from a friend who has benefitted from reflexology. I agree with Azalia in that it is non denominational and I personally would have thought that energy flow within the body was a thing to admire.

(Tiger skin loincloth, why didn't I think of that!?)

Thanks again for your comments.

Best wishes
 
This is really interesting.

I had a very strange reaction from a girl I know who has a beauty salon, she is only in her 30's and I used to go to get my eyebrows waxed etc.

Well, when I told her I was setting up doing various holistic therapies she came over all funny (at first I thought she maybe didn't want competition, but she doesn't do anything I do anyway)

Then she started on about how it was "the devil's work" and "evil spirits" and that Reiki was part of a cult!!

I was totally gobsmacked. I knew she was RC in religeon but don't think that was anything to do with it. I was really surprised that someone so young could be so ignorant about holistic therapies (esp as more people in the beauty industry are taking up reflexology and reiki etc).

Her reaction was so strong that I haven't been back since which is a shame as I had been going to her for years.

Just goes to show the diversity in feelings that folk have.

Patchouli
 
Hi,
interesting stuff.... I treat a family who mentioned to their priest(RC) and the Cannon....not sure if thats the correct term....that they were having Reiki/Reflexology....it was met with interest and support....the preist even asked where I was located!

Lisa x
 
I personally think it is all universal & suits all walks of life with a open mind. but as a pagan if someone came to me as a pagan clientand wanted that pagan healing work etc to be part of the therapies then I would include it as I'm able to do so. I do not hide my pentagram & my clients can see it if they wish to question it or look the symbolism up.

I think if they of that mind set that complementary medicine ispart of a cult or black magic (magic is neutral, its what the practitioner does with it that counts & their own values!) then their own self healing won't occur. It suggests a mind not fully open.

I have got to agree with patchouli though, any business person I do deal with that is strongly religeous does & wouldput me off if they give me their personal views. As a practitioner it would be very easy to lose clients by doing this. You have to stay totally neutral unless invited to discuss your faith and I think even then stay chilled. It's a very personal thing & not wholely appropriate for a therapy situation.
 
I do not think it is religion per se that is the problem but rather the mindset of the individual, as Wildwitchy says it depends on whether that person has an open mind. I do a lot of work for people with mental health problems and I recently had a conversation with a wonderful man in his 70's, he asked me to explain what Reflexology was as he had tried Reiki and Shiatsu and hoped to come and see me next. He never misses Mass and prays every day, he told me that he doesn't want to keep taking the drugs, he believes that natural ways are best.
 
There is nothing like the tolorent Christian is there...sometime I wounder how the reliegeon has survived this long. I really feel sorry for people with such narrow minded attitudes.

I a Pagan and except everyone for what they are, but I cant understand the gross intolorence of the Christian reliegeon. Even though I cant spell reliegeon...doh
 
Hi all
I find that treating the person holistically fills a gap many seem to have a need for. Combining being a Christian with holistic practices should not cause a problem. If you look at church history you will see astrology and astronomony used in great abundance.
 
Hi all

Interesting note though re the client as devout christian, what about the other religions who may phone up re a treatment. Would they phone up or call to see you?

John
 
Personally I'm an hermetician and rosicrucian as well as a ceremonial magickian.

I consider myself what could be called a gnostic christian.

For me the experiences I've had out from what I learnt within the hermetic and rosicrucian as well as other magickal teachings have made the greatest impact on my life and helped me become more spiritual, understand the laws of the univese, which helps you get a good life, karma, fortune and so on. The good thing is that these are principles and laws that can be followed, and one will see them come in effect and change your life for the better.

I reccmand the movie "The Secret"
 
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    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Jennifer, Coco and Emily ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  37. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Persian girl & Asian girl today
  38. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong
  39. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธMeiCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  40. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธBree Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  41. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  42. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Ella is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slim,Joey is very good looking,big breasted service queen,Amy is long hair provide a very good massage with...
  43. Fullssss:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๐Ÿˆต
  44. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mia & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj like a queen, and is open to dfk and cfs. Sasa is slim
  46. HolidaySpa:
    3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ LINA, YOYO & CINDY. [/color] Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. YOYO is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups and a very sexy figure. She provides the best versatile PSE services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a nice smile
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  48. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Phoenix , Nayla & Sasa are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Tina 30โ€™s with curve body open mind and young slime Summer 30โ€™s, pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Nana, Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
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