Time for a change?

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???O.K. I'm in a really successful chiro office, busy everyday! We do a 70/30 split, they bill all insurance, I use all office equipment (no extra charge) and we all get along. We refer to each other. Whats wrong you say? Well an ice cream palor is going in next door. I've put up with contruction for a few months now (sounds like there coming through the wall) and I'm really concerned about the noise level when they open. Also sometimes I feel like I could ADD more to my business if I got my own place. I do mostly therapuetic massages and alot of those patients are billed through insurance coverage while recieving chiropractic care, I would one hate to lose them and two feel bad that they didn't recieve a much needed massage because I wasn't there. Any advise would be helpful.Thanks, Pam
 
First I would say that you can't think about what kind of care those clients would receive when you're gone. ย Hopefully the chiro would be smart enough to interview and hire a therapist that offers the same kind of care/treatment that you offered those clients. ย You can't make a decision based on those thoughts. ย Second, if you've put up with the construction, you've made it through the tough part. ย Sure that business isn't going to be as quiet as a book store, but if you've dealt with the construction, an ice-cream shop shouldn't top that noise. ย Third, it may seem like the grass could be greener.....but trust me, it isn't always. ย In fact, rarely is the grass greener on the other side. ย Sounds to me like you have an almost perfect set up! ย And I say almost because nothing is perfect. ย You get great pay, you have great clients, you're busy, and you get along with the staff.My question is this....Why the hell would you leave all that?? ย :o ย I know other therapists that would die for that kind of position. ย I say you'd be crazy to leave.... But that's just my thought ย ;D
 
I'm not sure if I would trade all that to go out on my own either. ย I used to work in an ice cream shop when I was in my first year of college. ย It's not nearly as noisy as you would think. ย Well, it wasn't that noisy at the shop I worked at. ย During the day, it is SLOOOOW. ย When kids get off school around 3pm, it gets a little busy. ย Then it dies down again near dinner time and picks up AFTER dinner. ย I'm not saying that it would be the same at the ice cream shop next door to you, but I'm just letting you know what I experienced WORKING at an ice cream shop. ย Construction sucks. ย I know! ย There is a Darque Tan next door to the salon I work at. ย Massaging DURING their construction phase wasn't that pleasant. ย I thought they were going to drill into my room. ย Even with the hammering, sometimes it seemed like all the stuff on my shelves would be knocked over. ย Luckily, nothing like that happened. ย Just noise. ย LOTS of noise. ย And, it sounds like the construction is almost over at that ice cream shop? ย Don't let it get ya down. ย 
 
Time for a change?

Your 70/30 split is you get the 70%? It does sound like it's a good working environment you have already, except for the noise (if you get 30% it doesn't sound so good)

I agree with terab that you can't be concerned about what will happen to the clients if you leave - there will probably be another therapist there to treat them, probably not as good as you in some ways, and possibly better in some - we all offer something different.

Once you make a decision, tell your current clients - you may not loose all of them, the insurance billing might not be their main motivation for seeing you (though it may be) ย Do you have something like a compete clause which is why you think you have to leave your clients? ย You may find you're not meant to go to another chiro rather than setting up your own business.
 
Not to make light of your situation, but I'd be more concerned about how much ice cream I'd end up eating with the place right next door! ย Monday, vanilla, Tuesday, chocolate. ย Yikes! ย 
 
If you really like where you are I would suggest you wait to experience the noise level in the ice cream shop before you decide to move. ย If the construction is almost done you are most likely through the roughest part. ย I've had two other spaces where next door construction noise was incredible but once the businesses settled in the noise level was fairly normal. ย There are ways to help deaden disruptive noise. ย Possibly if you take a moment to explain to the management/owners of the ice cream shop their impact on your business they might be willing to work with you. ย You might want to go over and request that they not locate any speakers or trashcans on the otherside of the wall your treatment room shares with their shop. ย If you catch them before they start placement of these things it is far easier for them to make any changes necessary to accomodate your requests. ย If they are unwilling to work with you then enlisting the help of your chiropractor and management company might be helpful.If, in fact, it is time for you to move on to your own practice then now is the time to start looking at your opportunities and comparing them to what you already have. ย I agree with Terab and melb about not worrying about the chiro clients their care will work out as it needs to. ย You mention adding more to your practice, what would you do differently? ย What type of space would you need to accomodate these needs? ย  I would encourage you to write a business plan to help you know what you want and need. ย Answer questions like: Would the cost outweigh the income? ย Would you need $$ for deposits and/or equipment? ย Where do you want to be located? ย How would you market and draw in clients? ย The Business Mastery book has a section prepared to help MT's write business plans. ย It would be worth perusal.While your current set up sounds good, if you are considering leaving then there is something missing. ย Possibly if you can pinpoint what's missing you can add it in to where you are and make a good set up even better.
 
Time for a change?

Thank you for your replies! I know it sounds crazy on paper. My split is the 70%. I do girl's night outs and birthday parties at peoples homes also. So I was thinking I could host them in my own facility and expand on that. I also don't have water or a sink in my room, with limited space. So pretty much anything but massage is all I'm equipped to do. A business plan is a great idea! That sure would be realistic. Thanks, Pam
 
Time for a change?

I know other therapists that would die for that kind of position.

I'm one of them.

However, I do understand if you're wanting to branch out on your own for a bigger sense of accomplishment, responsibility, or what-have-you. I dream of one day having my own building, fully thriving practice, and to sell it when I decide to retire.
 
Hi, I have to agree with the the replies up there. ย Even the one with "eating" the ice cream!Seriously though, it sounds like you have a good deal. ย However, if you plan to move, you may have a wonderful opportunity to mentor someone into your position. ย It would help your peace of mind for the clients, the doctor in the office, the clients and another therapist who may be looking for a set up just like you are currently at.Hope this helps. ย :)
 
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    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Foxy -๐Ÿ”ฅYour new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5โ€™7โ€ sexy Korean girl with a wi
  39. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธBree๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธFran๐ŸŒธEly Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธHatti๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธTaniaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan ju
  42. lovefeetspa:
    Love feet spa ๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’„3641 wolfedale road Mississauga phone โ˜Ž๏ธ 4169890520today we have 3 girls work tina ella and lily beautiful and young girls ella can do dragon tendon massage all girls big boots my girls body smooch hand soft 100% no rush be make you happy l am promise you no regret come here
  43. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] 3 Top Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE (10am-9pm): is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. JULIA (1pm-6pm) from Philippines, young girl
  44. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga kiki and Mia
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised elega
  46. HollywoodSpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™5โ€
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Reika, Tracy & Cindy. Reika is Japanese, loves to please. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage, bbbj & cfs. Her bubbly personality vastly enhances the experience. Cindy is a slim beauty
  48. Eva Vivian - Elegant Asian Sweetheart:
    ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Iโ€™m Eva Vivian, your independent open minded slim sexy massage girl available working in Scarborough and North York. Available to provide you massage and extra services at Hawaii Health Spa in Scarborough and Greenway Spa in North York๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜ HAWAII HEALTH SPA: โœ…Hawaii Health Spa @ 3110 Kingston Road in Scarboroughโœ… โ˜Ž๏ธ416-261-8088โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿ’ฏEva available every TUESDAY, THURSDAY & FRIDAY from 10am to Late Night๐Ÿ’ฏ โ˜Ž๏ธCall Hawaii Health Spa 416-261-8088 to book appointment with Evaโ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿ’‹Every
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young cute slime Sophia and young fun Tina with curve body 36DD open mind, sweet EFG Lina and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & NANA. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
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