Acupuncture Course - Worth it?

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Hi Fellow members,

I have been interested in studying acupuncture for a very long time but never got the time to start studying it at university. I have a question for all acupuncturists out there or anyone else who's got some knowledge on the subject: is it worth doing?

The nearest college to me is the northern college of acupuncture. the course is a 3 year bsc degree and costs ยฃ21,000 in total (for 3 years) ! The cost keeps putting me off. So is it worth it? What are the job prospects after graduation. Obviously acupuncture is much more known and accepted but how long did it take you to establish a clinic and start making the money back that you invested into the education. I am just a little scared of putting so much money into the course. Any advice would be welcome.

I have another choice as well, bowen therapy, which is something I have experienced first hand and can say worked for me brilliantly! Can't make my mind up at all. IF I do bowen therapy then it pretty much helps with a lot of ailments that acupuncture covers but is not so well known and maybe is quite limited in what it can treat compared to acupuncture.

Anyway my query is more to do with acupuncture, the prospects and cost of it all.

Stuck.....

Beeswax
 
Hi Beeswax

Yes there is a future and a career in acupuncture. Acupuncture has a higher profile than other CAM therapies and is used to a small degree in the NHS. If there was any therapy that would ever be integrated into conventional healthcare, it would be acupuncture.

But you have to work out the if the training will pay for itself and it's possible to make a living. Business acumen and many other factors have to be taken in consideration in a successful practice, ie self-confidence. Therapists sitting at home expecting the "angels" or the "universe" to provide them work are living in a dreamland fantasy.

One benefit of either acupuncture & bowen therapy over other bodywork therapies is that they can be practiced well into retirement. Massage therapists' working life is a lot shorter as many musclosketetal problems can occur.

Studying acupuncture is a much bigger commitment than many other bodywork therapies, but then you can potentially do more with it. If your for example you have 20 years or more working life ahead of you, acupuncture is a good long term investment.

Best Wishes

RP
 
Thank you Reiki, you've definitely made me think about it even more seriously. It's definitely a popular therapy. Well, I guess I better get saving then! Are there any acupuncturists here who could give me some insight into how long it took them to set up etc.
 
Hi Beeswax,
It might sound a daft question but what are you wanting to use acupuncture for? would it be an adjunt to current treatments etc or as a seperate modality?
i ask because im aware for example, that you can train in specific areas such as Orthopaedic accupuncture for use in muscoskeletal problems. This doesnt / wouldnt qualify you as an acupuncturist but allows the use of acupuncture for certain conditions etc.

thanks,
simon.
 
hi fitnesstherapy,

as a seperate modality. just wondering whether its worth it in the end because the cost of the course is v.high.
 
Hello All-
This is my first post on these pages, so please excuse any protocol failures whilst I get used to the way of things!

Regarding acupuncture, I think the value of the course is reflected in the cost. Would you want someone with a poor (low cost) training sticking needles in YOU? Most serious injuries (collaped lungs etc) are caused by poor training.

I've just graduated with First from a UK university where the course fees are lower than most private collages. The training was first class- I was in a group of just 5 students, and much of the time the clinical supervision was 1 to 1 with top class professors of Chinese medicine. You need (and get) a first class training in A & P, pathology, basic psychology and business skills, each from top quality teachers, most of whom have years of real world experience. You HAVE to work hard- remembering the location of the points is just the basics!

As mentioned in a previous post, there are short courses available- these are usually only available to someone with an existing MEDICAL training who is regulated by the HPC, eg physio, midwife, nurse, dentist etc. These are short for a reason, as they are specific to each of the professions. Furthermore, some doctors (GP's) do a diploma in Medical Acupuncture (a very different theroretical basis than Traditional).

There are no "walk in" carreers after training. Most practitioners are self employed and expert marketeers- the rest go to the wall.

It it worth it? You bet! This stuff really works.
 
Hi david,

the course is validated by middlesex university and is a 3 year bsc degree course.

where did you study if you dont mind me asking.
 
Hi Besswax

I live on the Essex Riviera (seriously!) so the nearest course was at UEL.

Check that whichever course you choose that it's Stage 2 (or 3) validated by the BAcC-this allows automatic membership on graduating.

If you choose to do a course at a "proper" uni rather than a private college, you pay the normal fees of around ยฃ3200 per year, for which the Student Loan Co will stump up. Colleges like York, LTCA etc charge more, for which you have to find the difference. These external courses have to be validated by a uni to make them a genuine degree; recently one or two unis have withdrawn validation so check first.

York has a good reputation. My course manager trained with one of the leading lights there, but that was 20 years ago.

If you're serious about learning Traditional acupuncture, snaffle a copy of The Foundations of Chinese Medicine by G. Macciocia, and see if it shuts itself when you read it! If it stays open for an hour, you might just be OK with the course!

Much of the training revolves around "reflective practice"- if you can't "know" youself, how can you help someone else? Self evaluation based on honesty and clarity are crucial for acupuncture-people that come for help have often exhausted all other avenues, and can be wrung out by their experiences, so knowing how to "be" with others is crucial. This self reflection may highlight things that need tackling in youself- not always easy!

Ultimitely acupuncture is no miracle cure- but it CAN help with many of the things that Biomedicine struggles to fix without resorting to drugs. Look for the best teachers- phone and ask to observe a clinic for a morning, get treatment yourself, talk to others that have had acupuncture, but be realistic. Its a long hard training and to get put off halfway by lack of money or by stuggling with the workload is a real possibility. Eleven students started in my cohort-only 2 graduated this year as some switched to part time as the load was too much (often the students are "mature" with other work and familiy commitments). Others simply fell by the wayside. So it goes.

Good luck with your search
David
 
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    โค๏ธ ELENA and SUSU are here today for your XXX massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  36. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  37. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: CHERRY, LUCY & CINDY. CHERRY is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  38. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. TIFFANY is amazing slim
  39. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet Taiwanese student Victoria 25โ€™s slime and young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks open mind, young cute sexy Tina with curve body open mind and pretty GFE Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  40. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Kiki and Suki work
  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธKellyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  42. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Sexy girl Mia big boobs 36DD ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  43. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Thursday March 13, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿค—, Cici ๐Ÿ˜˜, Mia ๐Ÿ˜, Vicky ๐Ÿ”ฅ and Sophie ๐Ÿฅฐ Have a good evening! Call 905-479-6668 to book!
  44. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye
  45. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Jenny, Cindy, Coco, Echo, Amber, JPN Yui, Tina, Akino, Lucy & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  46. Suko 5Girls:
    Suko Spa schdule today on Wednesday is with 7 lovely๐Ÿ’“ladies๐Ÿ’“Gigi (new), Kim (new), Crystal, Jojo, Lucky, Michelle and Sunny ๐Ÿ›ฃ 420 ValleymedeDr, Richmond Hill, same plaza McDonalds ๐Ÿ“žโ˜Ž 905-597-8880 โ˜Ž
  47. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye
  48. Alibi Massage and Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’Ž NOW AT ALIBI โ€“ INDULGE IN THE ULTIMATE ESCAPE ๐Ÿ’Ž ๐Ÿ”ฅ A VIP experience like no other ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ƒ Sensual, stunning, and ready to take you beyond relaxation ๐Ÿ’‹ โœจ Where your fantasies meet our touchโ€ฆ
  49. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl mak
  50. wonderspa:
    . ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday Wednesday Thursday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide๐Ÿ˜ป ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy come back,very good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience ๐ŸŽnew girl Cici beautiful face amazing massage sensuality touch,give you warm and comfortable time๐Ÿ”ฅmust try๐Ÿ˜˜
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