Advice from IHM and Reflex therapists please

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I would really appreciate some advice from you excellent pro's please.

I'm starting a certified course on IHM soon and wondered how you combine it with Reflexology. I advertise as Reflexologist, do you advertise seperately for the IHM and under what heading?

How long are IHM appointments, do you do the two at 1 appt. Or is it too tiring.
what is the scale of charges?
Also does it hurt your thoracic spine when doing IHM, is there anyway you can stop that?

And last but not least. DOES A BIG BUST (THERAPISTS) GET IN THE WAY.

I daresay some of this will be covered on the course, but on the whole I think I have learnt more from you folk.

lol

Iceni
 
Hi

Got your message, but thought it would be quicker to reply here as I'm off to college soon.

The way you are taught IHM is that the therapist is very aware of her posture and you bend the knees and squat, rather than bend the back. It takes a bit of getting use to, because it's like doing an aerobics class, but you can see that if you didn't work that way, your back would be in agony. I have no problem on the chest side of it!! Apart from the facial massage, where the head is resting on a bolster or pillow, you are supporting their head in your arm and they shouldn't really touch your chest!

The treatment normally lasts about 25-30 minutes, longer with a consultation. I think doing a reflexology treatment and then IHM may be a bit tiring.

I am going to advertise my therapies as one probably, just listing them. You would advertise as an Indian Head Massage Therapist - that's what I'm doing anyway.

Hope this helps and I'll call you soon.

Sara x
 
Well good on you doing IHM as well....
MY IHM lasts approx 30mins and includes the facial. On clients that I know I have no problem doing the two...lets face it you sit down for the reflex! but I dont have anyone who wants me to do both at the same time.

I charge ยฃ20 for my IHM and ยฃ25 for reflex. Although I have a couch with a back rest supposedly for IHM I cannot use it so I sit them up on another chair....big bust no problem , I am a g cup and its fine....when it gets to the facial I gently rest them into myself and all think it is quite comfy, they dont have any problems in doing that and neither do I, I am not thinking about them at breasts at that point if you know what i mean....

Hope that helps
T
x
 
I have had the most wonderful IHM from TigerBee and can report that her boobs are very comfy (hope I'm not going to get into trouble for saying that!) And you're not sitting there thinking oh no I'm leaning against her bosom because you are away with those fairies. Believe me.
 
Siobhan
[sm=hug.gif][sm=rollaugh.gif] not often i laugh out loud when sitting at my pc but you did it for me honey....
Love ya
T
x
 
You wouldn't necessarily have to combine both! You can offer them as separate treatments can't you? Not many people will want both, some may, some won't. You will limit you clients if you only offer that combined treatment. Many therapist offer multiple treatments, that's the norm.

It isn't tiring doing both. If you do a usual day of maybe two, three,, four massages, a couple of reflex and maybe an Indian Head, then yes you may get tired, but those two combined would be a doddle. Agree with Tigerbee, specially as you get to sit down!

You can put a pillow between you and the client. Get the college to show you that. You will cover all these things.
 
Hi Folks


Thanks for the answers, I LOL as well!! Very helpful info and relieved the boobs are under control. I'm not sure about cradling some of my young chaps heads in my ample bosom so will have to perfect the pillow method!! Still, they really see me as a mother figure so probably not bothered.

Do you tend to do more reflex' or IHM ? Also Is there a category on Thompsons, Yell etc thats best for IHM.

Look forward to speaking to you Sara, thanks for the info.
When is your exam?


Lol
 
Hiya

I had 2 exams last week and the practical is on Saturday morning, that's the one I am more nervous about!

We don't get the results for another 6 weeks - bit of a pain because I want to advertise properly soon.

When does your course start?

S x
 
Hi Sara


The course is on Saturday and Sunday, this week and will then be on another weekend. I'll have to do 30 treatments, 2 projects and have an exam. Phew!!

You are then eligible to be a member of GCP or other???

Good luck for exams.

You can advertise now as you dont have to have any specific diploma to practice IHM legally (Not regulated and according to Sue Bailey!!!) and as you have done the course and are already a M.A.R. You probably have enough knowledge and experience.

I think our M.A.R. insurance covers us for another therapy in addition to Reflex'.

I had a good week for clients last week, but only 1 so far this week!! Talk about feast and famine.

LOL
 
I've never had a problem with boobs and IHM..........as I am tall their heads tend to rest on my stomach!!!

Makes me wonder what Siobhan puts in those wonderful muffins of hers

yasmin x
 
The IGPP will not insure the one day courses that you refer to Iceni as they require examinable content...you can get insurance from some places....You may well find the MAR will also require the certificate before they will insure you...so only advertise now if you know you are going to pass....


HHmmmm Yasmin I am the muffin monster and they are lovely scrummy.....if ever you are up this way we should have a muffin meet.....

T
x
 
Thanks Tigerbee but its Sara who is ready to advertise, not me yet, she has done a full course now.. My course is going to be four full days + 30 hours plus exam so should be ok.

lol

Iceni
 
PS

I looked into the one day courses as they were quite cheap, but on the whole I would rather have more teaching befor letting loose on the world, and as you say not good if you cant get insurance. Bit risky!!!

lol

Iceni
 
You should be entitled to a free 3 line listing give them a call.....please be careful to sort your tax business out first the Inland Revenue has people trawling through yellow pages etc to make sure people are paying what they should.....it could take them years to find you but you never know....

T
x

Hmm I have had the argument before about the one day courses but when I called the IGPP and they informed me then that was it for me, I think they would be ok as Gillyann does for non vocational purposes ie family but i wouldnt go to a therapist who'd only done the short course....

T
xx
 
Sorry T

My memory is dreadful..........must be that it is At One that is always going on about your lovely muffins

My young son made me laugh today. He followed a recipe from a restaurant that we go to in Ludlow (Olive Branch) for Brownies. The details were scant but it was quite obvious that there was a baked base and a fudge topping added afterwards. I went to check on the oven and the mixture was rising well above the trayback tin. After questionning him found out that he had done both layers and THEN put it in the oven. The result was INTERESTING!!!!

Atleast he tries Perhaps you should send him your coveted muffin recipe.

We should all get together for a weekend in Shropshire in the summer..........you could all bring your tents and countless supplies of muffins, of course!!!

yasmin x
 
Hiya Yasmin
No it is me confusing you. sorry, Siobhan is the muffin maker and I am the mad muffin monster eater.......mind you nothing much stopping me from making muffins about from that precious commodity called time!!!

A get together would be lovely...
T
x
 
Hi Folks

You keep making my mouth water with all this talk about muffins. its so unfair as I'm really trying hard to cut out wheat and lose some weight!! I'll have to have a rice cake soon to keep my mind off muffins (which I love).

A trip to Shropshire sounds lovely, I've got a touring caravan!!!

Anyway

Tigerbee, I agree with you, I would be very cautious about being treated by someone not having adequate training, especially re contraindications, no A&P etc.

lol

Iceni

It no good, I'm going to have to have a choc chip and fudge muffin I've got hidden in my cupboard (for the children of course).
 
Oh you wicked women, tell me what is all soft and crumbly and did you pick the crumbs up and eat them as well....yummy....children come in handy for all sorts of reasons dont they!!!!
Love
T
x
 
Just read this post and was curious as to how you can fit an IHM treatment into 25 mins, mine normally last at least 40 mins.

And can you please talk about lettuce or tomatoes instead of choc chip muffins, it is no good for my waistline.....
 
Hiya Sylvie
The treatment i do is just a little over 30mins but they are probably nearer 45-50 mins from start to finish.
T
xxx

Lettuce, oh come on ok lettuce, and various salad with lashings of mayo and mabye a chicken or quorn burger in a bun...yummmmmmmm
T
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approa
  32. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธNina Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  33. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ PAOLA, AMMU, KIRAN, AMANDA, SUMMER, ASHA, PREETI, ANGELINA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  34. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Young girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  35. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Kiki and Judy are at work. They are both young and pretty. They are great at deep and relaxing massages.
  36. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Young Beautiful Girls : New Girl Joy, Ellagant Ella, Hottie Hattie, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญHattie๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  37. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl Jessica Pretty Girl with amazing personality and super easy to get along with. Sasa friendly Vietnamese Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl
  38. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Friday April 25, 2025, our attendants will be Cici ๐Ÿ˜˜, Opal ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿฅฐ, Carla โค and Ada ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  39. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Terrific Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Tiffany, Joey, Julie, Aaliyah, Coco, Yui, Meghan, Michelle & New 34D Jasmineโ€”โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  40. Lilyspa1:
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  41. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Tina works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  42. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower body scrub Sea Salt Bath๐Ÿ‘every day 3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Nice girl Mia โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 36 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, back walking has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will b
  43. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.on Thursday ,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…beautiful Jessica come back,deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…sunny very good looking,big breasted sweet sensual touch really popular ๐ŸŒนlong hair very young beautiful Lily ,friendly smile,,slim body back. Walk,hot stone,cupping ,more experience โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ,must try
  44. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude
  45. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, PAOLA, ASHA, ANGELINA, SONIA, SALMA, MEGAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  46. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธAlisaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  47. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive, with a tight frame and service with a smile. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one.
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  49. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Tina works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
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