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Cosmetic Acupuncture

ThoAshiuao

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Hi There

I would love to hear from any practitioners who use Cosmetic Acupuncture in their practice, is there more of a demand these days as the media covers Cosmetic Acupuncture more.
Are you against the use of Cosmetic Acupuncture and is it something that you would never consider in your practice.
Any experiences or comments would be really appreciated please let me know your thoughts.

Many Thanks
Paul
http://www.cosmeticacupunctureuk.com
 
Hi there...

I am only a student of acupuncture (on my final year) so not sure if you are interested in my opinion...

I am not interested in cosmetic acupuncture in my future practice...i was actually really against it till last year, but i have softened to it, not to the point to being able to relate to it.

I am not saying that cosmetic acupuncture should not exist, it is more than legitimate if there is the demand for it and it works, i just wish it had a different name...that the link to chinese medicine wouldn't be made.

Because that is not chinese medicine. Not the rich chinese medicine from the classics, not the one that survived thanks to the hard work of single doctors with their unique approach. Maybe it can somehow relate to TCM, but that's an invention of the 50's...so...

I think cosmetic acupuncture is just an other expression of our time...of us struggling to come to terms with aging, of trying to stop time and look perfect all the time...i am not condemning it and i can to some extend sympathize (better than having surgery)... but is that chinese medicine? Hell no. And that 's what i want to do, so i'll pass on that!

Good luck!
 
sounds like a quick money spinner to me! just like all the other treatments that use the strenght of TCM to capitalise in what are already 'watered down' therapies here in the west.

Chinese Tui Na is far more effective , and the effects are better than botox, plus you get the benifit of the medicinal values of TCM.

Unless you had a specific medical problem that needed facial acupuncture i cant see why you would use it for a cosmetic value.

When will the western world learn eh!

INDO
 
If it's based on the same fundamental principles as Chinese acupuncture
and improves one's state via the same work with Qi, it is more than legitimate.
More, it seems much more benefical than certain branches of Western cosmetics considering the amount of various chemicals with potential hazards, and possibly in particular combinations which may appear harmful
to some people.
Some basic ideas from Chinese medicine like balance of Yin and Yang, may
be a revelation to Westernese, like eating absol-ly healthy organic farm food, vitamines, supplements, may yet make one more prone to cancer if one has 80% or more of Yin meals in diet.
 
Hi Paul,

I think it's perfectly legit. The shen (spirit) manifests in the face afterall and although I'm sure people operate in different ways, I was trained to still take the pulses, look at the tongue and ask some questions in order to include a source point or similar. We would still be treating the person as a whole as the face represents in a clear picture what is going on in the rest of the body.

I don't know about other facial revitalisation courses, but the one I attended also included tui na techniques. The insertion of needles is a great way to increase qi and blood flow to suffering areas. This isn't a new idea, it's been practiced in China at least as early as the Sung Dynasty (960AD-1270AD) for the Empress and the concubines.

If facial revitalisation is popular, people accessing our clinics are more likely to turn to acupuncture for other health needs and the more the wonderful benefits of acupuncture are publicsed the better in my opinion.

Best of Christmas wishes,

Jenny

P.S. Your website looks fab!
 
if there is a specific facial problem that needs needle point treatment it should be treated, other than that, most facial rejuvenation requires blood flow and muscle work. break down the old and renew!
chinese thyeology relies on more than acupuncture and should rely on what ever means suits the need.

Root cause! not what your education limits you to!

INDO
 
I Jenny! welcome on board,

I always look at the tongue for diagnosis, but rarely need to check a pulse unless i have conflicting patterns.

Again, i will always watch the seasons, constitution and lifestyle. It has kept me in good stead so far.
INDO
 
Thanks INDO

People have different ways of working, but the pulse is quite important in Chinese acupuncture as it represents how the qi of the different organs is behaving at that exact moment in time, whereas the tongue describes the health of the organs over a slightly longer time. The coating and moisture can change quite quickly (not as quick as the pulse), but the body colour, shape and cracks change over a longer period of time.

I also find the pulse is useful during a treatment, as you can tell immediately if the chosen points have had the desired effect.

Jenny
 
I find that i tend to use the pulse to check how the treatments are progressing and also if there is a shift in a patients pattern between treatments.

INDO
 
I think facial acupuncture has a part to play.
A colleague of mine treats a patient for facial acupuncture using normal acupuncture points - as per our clinic supervisors advice - and seems to be having good results too.
If demand is there - why not encompass it?
 
The entire body is aging from the day we are born and trying to stay healthy to look and feel better isn't a sin, in my opinion. When you are healthy, you naturally look better. However, having acupuncture won't make you look ten years younger. Save your money for a facelift!
 
Having seen the results I'm now completely converted to facial acupuncture and it leaves people with a deep sense of wellbeing too. It has excellent results and people radiate a deep inner glow.

The needles relax facial muscles, stimulate blood flow to remove toxins (the body goes 'eek I have needles in my face, quick blood, go and see what's going on!'...

Here's an article

Best wishes

Jenny
 
For example, greasy skin in the centre of forehead:
D ---> ExtH ---> C ---> H ---> Dampness down, Wind up
 
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    All season wellness center :New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Zoe ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  34. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  35. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty student Vivian and young fun Tina open mind with 36DD, Cute GFE Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage. Pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  36. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALAY, MONIKA, AMANDA, ANAYA, AAVI, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  37. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  38. Dreaminn:
    MONDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: AMY, MIMI & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ AMY is a sweet and friendly Chinese vixen, 158Cms, 115Lbs, with C Cups and very willing to please. MIMI is a cute young Asian lady with a medium build,167Cms, 110Lbs, D Cups & very open minded services. VIVI is a very cute and young lady
  39. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAMY, CINDY & LUCY AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  40. SunriseRH:
    MONDAY at SUNRISE SPA: EMILY, MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-325-8086 โ˜Ž๏ธ EMILY is a beautiful Asian lady, 36C-29-29, 5โ€™4โ€ & 110Lbs, with a sensual touch. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is a sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39
  41. Peony Garden Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY ๐ŸŒธ HELEN: A YOUNG TALL AND SLIM VIETNAMESE GIRL WITH A VERY LUSCIOUS BODY, 5'7 WITH AN INCREDIBLE BEHIND ๐ŸŒธ JENNY: A TALL AND SLIM KOREAN GIRL THAT IS A TOTAL SERVICE QUEEN ๐ŸŒธ ELLA: A PETITE YOUNG CHINESE GIRL THAT IS A POPULAR FAVOURITE ๐ŸŒธ PEONY GARDEN SPA ๐ŸŒธ 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 ๐ŸŒธ (416) 335-6093 ๐ŸŒธ
  42. NewOriental:
    MONDAY at NEW ORIENTAL SPA: HAPPY, HANNA & LULU. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-381-2688 โ˜Ž๏ธ HANNA is a young, tall & slim Vietnamese honey with great skills & attitude. HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  43. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Bella &new girl Kitty. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage. Kitty is a very cute & young Petite Vietnamese lady with decent massage skills and very wild services.
  45. Sparkling Spa:
    SPARKLING SPA 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!! KOREAN NYMPHO SUMMER & SHANGHAI SENSATION JENNIFER!!!โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  46. Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’— โ„๐”ธโ„™โ„™๐• ๐•„๐”ธ๐• ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ MAY 13th , MONDAY ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 707-6866 ๐Ÿ•™๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸOpen 10:30-10:00๐Ÿ—บ#33-160 East Beaver Creek ๐Ÿ—บ 7 Rms ๐Ÿ›๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸTable Shower(TS)+Massage * 2hr $120* (Appt. Only) , TS & massage 1hr $90, ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸAttendants: We have 5๏ธโƒฃ today ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• DAISY ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• RICA ๐ŸŒน SOPHIE ๐ŸŒนSENECA ๐ŸŒน LUCY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ NEWSFLASH ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐Ÿ†• RICA & SOPHIE & ๐Ÿ†• DAISY & SENECA โ€˜ s BACK ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ TODAY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€
  47. Sparkling Spa:
    SPARKLING SPA 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!!!! VIET SERVICE QUEEN JENNY AND HK HOTTIE FOX!!!โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  48. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel & Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  49. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธevery day 3 girls ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนCoco.Jessica.Cici very good service massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜table shower body scrub 5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 7 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MALAY, MONIKA, KIRAN, MIMI, NISHA, ANAYA, YAYAL PEARL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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