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Hi,
Just a query but does anyone feel at times dispondent with the treatments they offer,

Fatfairy [sm=confused-smiley-012.gif]
 
fatfairy, your post suggests YOU might be feeling despondent, and if so, I'm sorry you feel that way.

But are you feeling despondent (or enquiring if others are) about the treatments themselves ... or possibly responses from potential clients to treatments on offer? Your profile doesn't say what treatments you do.

Holistic
 
Hi Holistic,
At present I offer IHM, Swedish Massage, Reflexology and Reiki. At times I don't feel competent in what I am doing and the support I thought was there from my Reiki/Reflexology tutor isn't. I passed VTCT in Holistic Therapies 2 years ago and so far I have 3 regular clients.
I however don't always feel comfortable asking for money for the treatments and haven't for a while. Not sure if it's becasue of a lack of confidence and experience. But whilst studying it was implyed that we must charge a certain amount otherwise it would frowned upon and also make it difficult for others to charge for their treatments they offer.
I suppose some of the dispondent feeling has come from a client (who is now no longer a client) who had Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (POS). When I first went to treat her with Reiki and she told me of this condition I admitted it wasn't something I had heard of but would research it. My findings were mixed, but it was suggested in some cases that Reflexology could help. She agreed to the reflexology along with having some Reiki at the same time as she had liked it. I feel though that at the end of 8 weeks she was expecting to be pregnant (something she said her and her husband were trying for), but I never at any point said this was a miracle cure or this would happen. I did also discuss other factors such as diet, exercise etc as she was quite overweight.
I have also just started an Access to Nursing course, which has bought on small bouts of anxiety attacks and stress! which makes me wonder whether I am actually in a position to treat people anyway?
Feeling a bit lost,
Fatfairy
 
Hi Fat Fairy,

Up until a couple of weeks ago that could have been me (plus EFT) talking but not now. Now,my confidence is good, I am attracting more clients, have been asked to do a workshop in stress management and treatments have improved!!

So what has happened. Well, I was lucky enough to go Gary Craig's EFT seminar and managed to clear a lot of issues and now I believe in myself. Why not visit the Mind Therapies forum and look at the EFT stuff. You never know, it might help.

Love

Sarah
xxx
 
Hi Fatfairy

Thanks for your full reply. I get a better picture now. What follows isjust myopinion, or suggestions โ€ฆ I'm saying that now so as not to keep repeating myself, hopefully!



Well, you have a good repertoire of treatments there. I'm sorry you don't seem to be getting support from your tutor. As far as the Reiki is concerned, unfortunately this does seem to happen sometimes. May I suggest you pay a visit to the Reiki forum here, see if any threads containing queries from others are any help to you, and if your questions aren't covered, please start a new thread and ask. You will get support there, even if opinions sometimes differ! Same goes for the Reflexology forum, I'm sure, though I'm not a reflexologist so not a frequent visitor there.

Three regular clients โ€ฆ well, if they're regular, [/i]you must be doing something right if they keep coming back for more! How did you get those clients in the first place? Can you do more of that to increase your number of clients?



If you are a qualified therapist, of course you should be charging for your services. I understand about not feeling comfortable asking for money. How could you get round the discomfort, perhaps in your choice of words, ie how you ask? If your clients are regular, perhaps they could be offered a small discount if they pre-book (and pre-pay) a given number of treatments? Maybe something to also consider for new clients?

It seems to me that your client with POS was hoping that a miracle would happen. Neither you nor your treatments can be held responsible for her failure to conceive, and you were absolutely right not to have made any claims or promises. I usually make a disclaimer on these lines before a treatment, just so I'm covered and the client has no false hopes. If this lady is no longer your client, you may not know if she's seen her GP about it, but that's the person to whom she should be referred.



It's perfectly natural to feel a little anxious and stressed when beginning something new. If there's anything specific about the course that you feel might be causing this, perhaps you could have a quiet chat to your tutor about it. I'm sure that once you've overcome these blips, you'll actually be in a better position to treat people, because you'll have the knowledge and understanding that comes from experience.

Sarah mentions EFT in her post. I can't comment from personal experience on that one, but certainly I do see EFT very highly recommended in various forums here, so I'd certainly follow her suggestion to have a look in Mind Therapies.

Another good forum to visit would be Business Development, because there's loads of advice there about many aspects of getting a business established and attracting more clients, from giving talks, having a website, design and distribution of publicity material etc

Perhaps a bit naughty and irreligious of me to suggest this, but with Christmas not s
 
Wow, Thank you both for your positive response.
It has helped so far to know there is somewhere for support and advice. To know that people are or have been in similar situations. I will certainly start putting some of the suggestions into practice and definatly have a look at the other forums suggested.
Thank you again,
regards Fatfairy
p.s. Here's to a brighter future

Love and light [sm=nature-smiley-008.gif]
 
Just another thought. Is there a Reiki shares in your area. I have had a lot of support from the others who go to the one I attend. It's also a great way to get yourself on the receiving end as well.

Love Sarah
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Just joined tonight. Feeling pretty bloody depressed! Probably cos I teach 11-16 year olds! Hang in there. Can anyone help, I think I need to relax and I need help with anger management. I joined because I wanted to learn about Wiccan beliefs and this is what "googled" up. I love teaching but my life feels pretty unfulfilled. I need something to fill the hole! Any suggestions?
Thanks, Sue[&:]
 
Welcome Sue, don't envy you much, I must say[:-]

Loads of info on HP, enjoy yourself and why not go to New members forum and say Hi there, lots of people waiting to welcome you.

Gillyx
 
Hi
There were 2 reiki get togethers in my area. One was started by the tutor I mentioned before. We were charged for the room hire and she ran one then didn't bother after that. The other was held at a persons house who was also a student of the tutor. They were quite nice to go to, very relaxed, until the student fell out with the tutor about her teaching methods and what she had taught in Reiki 1 and 2. The other student phoned me telling me that most of what I had learnt in Reiki 2 was wrong. I honesly didn't want that negativity in my life and so have not gone since [:@] or had any other contact with that person.

Fatfairy [sm=nature-smiley-008.gif]
 
HiFatfairy:

So glad to see from your earlier post that you're feeling a bit brighter , but "oh dear" about the fallings out between the Reiki people, and I think you were quite right not to want to be involved. There's a thread on Reiki shares pinned at the top of that forum, also a Directory at the very top of the page, which might help.

As for getting your therapies going generally,have you thought what might be your first step?

Laura.
 
Hi,
Sorry I didn't reply sooner but I have been a bit bogged down with my 1st 2 assignments on the Access to nursing course Thank you for the advice/words of wisdom it has done a lot of good
At the moment I am offering reduced price treatments to my regular clients if they introduce more clients to me. Regular clients also get a free treatment for their birthday.
There is a community centre nearby where I may be ably to do Complementary Therapy Awareness days or mornings, but I am negotiating costs with them. That's as far as I've got at the moment, but any other ideas are welcome.
Fatfairy [sm=FIFangel.gif]x
P.S. I think my weight gain also added to my dispondent low feeling and so I have joined an exercise class and will be starting swimming again too [sm=animal-smiley-085.gif].
 
Hi fatfairy

What a lovely post to read ... thank you! It's always wonderful to get positive feedback and I'm glad to have been of help. I'm sure the others will be too.

How did the assignments go? They're time-consuming, I know, but I used to really rather enjoy mine when I had to do them

Access to Nursing ... correct me if things have changed, but Access to XXXXX (anything) used to be a kind of introductory course, or stepping stone, to further study. Do you have a longer term goal here as regards nursing?



How are they making the introductions? Word of mouth and personal recommendation aregreat. Do they also have some leaflets or cardsto hand round with your contact details on them? I think the birthday treatmentis a lovely idea- a really nice touch (pun, sorry! )

A thought on the awareness days, as you say you are negotiating ... could you give a little leeway maybe, on a trial basis, subject to later confirmation and an increase in prices?



Gosh, you're really going great guns all round, aren't you ... well done! I'm sure I don't really need to say this, but I do place very high value on eating properly. Easiest thing in the world if feeling a bit low is to skimp on decent food and snack on junk. I actually have the opposite problem - maintaining weight - so I'm always eating, but if I don't make sure I eat a good, balanced diet, I soon feel like rubbish myself.[:'(]

Anyway, it all sounds very good and positive - keep up the good work

Laura.

EDITED to add a couple of links to other threads which may be of interest:

[link=http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=254796&mpage=1&key=&#254796]http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=254796&mpage=1&key=&#254796[/link]
Books forum - Optimum Nutrition Bible

[link=http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=255093]http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=255093[/link]
Massage forum โ€“ thread on attracting new clients
 
Hi Laura,
The access course will enable me to get the credits to go on to Uni and study Nursing. Ideally would like to be able to combine the Complementary therapies with the Nursing [sm=1syellow1.gif]well its the idea at the moment.
I have given out leaflets to clients to pass onto potential clients, but no joy yet. Oh well positive thought [sm=nature-smiley-008.gif]
I do try and have a balance diet but still have those one or two things that I can't stay away from. It's been great this year as my boyfriend and I managed to grow our own tomatoes, radish and a few beans and his Mum grew potatoes, leeks and beans and what a difference in taste.
I don't suppose you know anything about lay lines etc. My Mum beleives we have some sort of undercurrent of water under our home and that its depleating me of energy? I'm going to post it on one of the other forums,

Thanks again,
Fatfairy x

P.S. Not so dispondent anymore :-)
 
Good luck with all the studies, fatfairy.



Ha ha, don't we all My downfall is homemade chocolate tiffin (actually made by a superb local shop), but only a little "finger" at a time. Totally agree about the homegrown veg. I've put this link in the gardening forum a time or two, but if you go here, you'll find nutritional info and advice about the veg from the people who produce the seeds - I used to buy mine from them: [link=http://www.dobies.co.uk]www.dobies.co.uk[/link]



Ehem ... well, I know a little bit about them, ditto dowsing, both of which I find quite fascinating. I shall await your new post with interest and hopefully be able to make something of a contribution. Perhaps you'd PM me when you do, so I don't miss it. Thanks.



That's what I like to hear (read)! <Big smile back to you>

Laura.
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Edmonton โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl โ—๏ธCindy, sexy girl 1.65 M.pretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ Sweet girl Ivy Big Boobs 36DD ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  34. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS ADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683/905.886.9993 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธManiac Monday Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Young Beautiful Girls : Young Lovely Lori, New girl Kelly, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! Take advantage of New 4 hands Duo Promo 30 mins for only $70. BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) or BUY 5 HOURS (GET 6 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS MAGICAL MIA OR YOUNG LORI**
  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒนโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ Wonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)L6a 4H8,Please โ˜Ž๏ธ4165000-800,Ensuit rain shower now is available ,every day 4 nice girls working,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,everything she can do,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is very beautiful face long leg friendly ,nice body slide,really popular must try๐ŸŒนlong hair friendly Mina,strong to relaxing oil massage,back walking,hot stone,get a lot massage experience ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅ
  36. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage w
  37. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day, Young Cute Chinese Jesse, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAntonela๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTiffany Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. Golden Flower Spa:
  40. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  41. Pink Flower Spa:
  42. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  43. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  44. HollywoodSpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: MIMI & TRACY. โ˜Ž๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฐโ˜Ž MIMI is a slim Chinese spinner hottie with a great ass, great body slide & liberal services. TRACY is a slim, taller & pretty lady, very friendly with an extensive menu. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & New Girl Mimi. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, KELLY & MIA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. KELLY is a young Singaporean lady, slim with C Cups & liberal skills. MIA
  48. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธLily๐ŸŒธCarly๐ŸŒธVivianCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today.Young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and young sweet Michelle 25โ€™s with curve body open mind and cute GFE Ella and young student Taiwanese Victoria 25โ€™s slime open mind are providing deep tissue and sensual massage,pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธMONICA, PAOLA, SASHA, ASHA, MONIKA, AMANDA, PREETI, ANGELINA, SONIA, NISHA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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