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There is a therapist in my area who recently moved. I have heard from two different sources she wants $100 per day from IC renters.

She has a renting IC who moved with her, but I don't know what she is charging her.

To give you an example of rent prices here, I pay $600 plus utilities for a private two room suite. I have a friend who rents out of a tanning salon and she pays a percent with that maxes out at $350 per month plus about $30 for utilities. I have another friend who rents for $300 plus utilities and can get extra rooms in her building for $200. The place I started out in charged me $300 everything included.

So, what is up with charging $100 per day?? This particular therapist charges $65 per hour, which is on the higher end around here. If someone took her up on her offer, charged the same as her, rented the room 3x per week, and saw 6 clients a day, they would make $4680 every 4 weeks and pay $1200 every 4 weeks. Over the course of a year, your rent would be $15600. That is, if you can get 18 clients to come in on those 3 days every 4 weeks.

Yesterday I got a call from a MT in the area looking for work. I told her I wasn't hiring and asked if she had thought about self employement because I knew a friend who had space. She asked, "She isn't the one who just moved by the ABC Flower Shop, is she?"

"You mean Beth who wants $100 a day?" I asked back. "No, it's someone else."

I have half a mind to speak with this MT and find out her reasonings. She is never going to rent that place for $100 per day. But then, maybe that is her intention?

What do you think?
 


What do you think?

To be perfectly honest, I think it's her business and she can charge what she wants to. It's her perogative. Either she'll find someone to pay what she wants or she'll lower her price.

I don't see where it's the massage community's business to say how much she can charge. It's a free market.

:2cents:
Angie
 


moogie said:
What do you think?

To be perfectly honest, I think it's her business and she can charge what she wants to. It's her perogative. Either she'll find someone to pay what she wants or she'll lower her price.

I don't see where it's the massage community's business to say how much she can charge. It's a free market.

:2cents:
Angie

:roll: Where is the emoticon of a little cat hissing when you need it?

How stupid of me not to think she has a right to charge whatever she wants. Thank you for pointing that out mooger.

Maybe she has a reason for justifying her high rate, I don't know for certain. I was throwing out the question to the group to get different insight. I thought that is what this group was all about.
 


peacenut said:
Maybe she has a reason for justifying her high rate, I don't know for certain. I was throwing out the question to the group to get different insight. I thought that is what this group was all about.

I doubt you will get her reasoning for justification from any of us. Why don't you call her up and ask her about it since you don't know for certain (from her mouth) what she is charging for rent, what is included in the rent, etc.
 


That is pretty high, I agree. Is it really nice??

There are some around here who charge insane pricing. Mostly the therapists there don't last long.
 


peacenut said:
:roll: Where is the emoticon of a little cat hissing when you need it?
If you find one, go ahead & post one from me. I agree with Moogie 100%. By the way, group discussion often includes opinions you don't like. When you object to that with sarcasm, the hissing's coming from you.
 
Expensive Rent

peacenut said:
What do you think?

You ask this question and then slam moogie for her response?! What is that all about?

BTW- I, too, agree that it is irrelevant what she charges. It is her space to do with what she wants. If you truly want to know, then ask her.
 


Ok I'll bite. . . $100 a day is outrageous :shocked: At least at first blush, maybe she thinks you can charge your clientel a hundred dollars per session to make up for it, who knows :roll:

Anyways go ahead and ask her

Jason
 


I'm sure it would depend on what she is paying for rent. For instance, I pay $400 a month plus utilities for my space (one 250 sq. foot room) and would be willing to rent it out on my days off (sun,mon) for $115/mo for both days. If she's paying more, then she of course would sub-lease for more. For me, it's all about location, location location. I'm smack downtown with an actual parking lot for my building which is PRIME real estate here. If I were to move across the hall where there would be 2 treatment rooms, I'd sublease the other for $450/week because that's half of the rent.

So, that's probably her reasoning.

Emily
 


Interesting that you feel she charges on the higher side of things. I wouldn't be surprised that she feels you aren't charging enough. As for her choice in rent -- possibly she is including equipment and supplies or referrals to whoever rents that space.
 


I agree with a lot that has been said so far. Including your quickness to jump on Moogie for offering her opinion. It sort of makes me question why this is such a button pushing issue for you?

How has this woman asking $100/day changed your business or who you are as a person?

After looking at why this is a hot issue for you, then decide if you wish to call her to hear 'straight from the horses mouth' what she is asking/offering. But I think once you look at the issue within yourself you will realize that this person has no effect on you or your success in your practice. So why let the negative in?
 
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peacenut said:
What do you think?

I think:

...Moogie answered your question but you didn't like her opinion.
...Your reply to her was rude, disrespectful and completely out of line.
...Bliss is right that YOU are the hissing cat in this thread.
..."Beth" has the right to charge what she wants for the space.
...You might just be going off half-cocked since you don't know first-hand what Beth is charging. Is it possible that it's $100/day for all of the Mondays or Tuesdays in a month rather than for each working day? (That's the standard in my area.)

I wonder, though, why you even care what Beth is charging? What difference does it make in your life? I agree with Moogie, Beth will either find someone to pay her asking rate or she'll lower it. Either way, I don't see how it affects you.
 


I agree with the people who think your response was out of line, Peacenut.

In fact, what does it matter what she charges, unless you were renting from her and she suddenly put her rent up.

If she can get $100 per day, more power to her. If not and if she wants to rent it, she will soon learn to lower her price.
 


I suppose if she can get it thats great for her. It sounds like she may be a little out of the ball park for the area, but maybe she is offering some other incentives like who knows what? For what its worth that would be about average of what rent is around my neck of the woods.
Basically I would not worry about it. Its her business to run as she pleases. If its just driving you nuts, then call her up and ask, but don't get offended if she is not to forthcoming with her business plans. And yes like someone said, I would try and identify why its on your mind so heavy. Theres something more to this, some reason its eating at you.
 


EgoMagickian said:
I support peacenut's curiosity. I like to know what's going on in my local industry.

Josh,
I agree that some curiosity is good and I too like to know what's going on in the area. I feel it's the tone/attitude in which peacenut posted and her quick bark back at moogie that is bringing up a red flag about this issue.

Stating, "I have half a mind to speak with this MT and find out her reasonings." to me, is more than just normal curiosity.
 


Stating, "I have half a mind to speak with this MT and find out her reasonings." to me, is more than just normal curiosity.

Sure... and the curiosity and these other potential issues around it can be dealt with as two separate things. Reading back, I see that people have done this. I originally left the thread feeling like folks were implying that the question shouldn't be asked, but nearly everyone flat out said, "Ask her." AND "What's with you?"
 
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    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, NUR, PRIYA, MONIKA, LOLA LOVE MONICA, AMANDA, LUCY, PREETI, ANGELINA, SARIKA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  36. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, address:6262 hwy7 , unit #1 Vaughan, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bella ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  38. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mimi๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A captivating and alluring new massage girl from Korea whose elegance and c
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietna
  41. Paxton:
    Any Persian Milf out there?
  42. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6A4H8.ensuit rain shower available ๐Ÿ’„Sunny is very big boost sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice body slide,๐ŸŒนbeautiful girl long hair Mina can Reduce your pain,back walking,hot stone massage ๐ŸŒนnice friendly Lily strong massage open mind,really popular๐Ÿ”ฅmust try
  43. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE (10am to 8pm): is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. out! KITTY (12pm to 9pm): is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business
  44. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMAA, LUCY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUCY, TIFFANY & TINA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUCY is a cute young Vietnamese girl, 5โ€™1โ€, 50Kgs, with a full range of services available. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young cute Vivian 22โ€™s and young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks open mind, pretty EFG Ella and sweet Tina with curve body are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. lotushubspa:
    Spa AD ๐Ÿ’‹Lotus Hub Wellness๐Ÿ’‹ 10737 Yonge St, Unit 13, Richmond Hill, ON (Elgin Mills/Yonge)๏ผŒ 416-356-5876 Good morning, ๐Ÿ’‹ dear customers, today ๐Ÿ’‹ Lotus Spa ๐Ÿ’‹ arranges female masseuses. Different girls work every day. Today there is Lisa.๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’‹ from South Korea, Yuki from China, Mary๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from Taiwan. Please call 9052375885โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹ or 4163565876๐Ÿ’‹ SMS address 10737 Yonge St unit13 lotushubspa Post #366 Jan 2, 2025 Forum
  50. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Slim Sexy Chinese Coco & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Jasmine
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