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I am sorry if I am the only one to speak to this but FFS, are you saying you tip $20 when the level of attraction doesn’t meet your sophisticated scrutiny? That is the most offensive response I have seen in quite a while. Having said that I thought I blocked most of the the douchebags on this site but you just added to the list.
Just because the lady would rather not lose your pathetic chump change does not make it acceptable to treat her so poorly.
Gentlemen. $40 for basic extras is bare minimum. Accept it and stop trying to find a golden deal. FFS your lunch probably cost that much! Accept that having a complete stranger touching your junk is worth at least $40 and maybe the rest of us won’t have to deal with the poor attitudes from ladies who have to deal with cheap ass fools like yourself.
I will also point out that I have never tipped less than $50 and generally am $60+ because I have no misconceptions of what this is.
Holy fuck!
Ya, Spexx hit it on the head.
If you are willing to rub my rubies, you deserve at least $60 extra……..and no, I don’t expect to grope you while you do it for that price.
You really think your getting a spec of quality service when you try and haggle to +$20 before the finale?
 
Think about it ....Do you truly believe these girls anxiously wait for some strange joint to rub to make their day.
Love2Massage started this thread and stated that she "had bills to pay". These ladies do not get certified as RMT's so they can spend their day jerking horny guys off, it is a profession.
Unfortunately it has become expected that a HE is generally available, so many do it to keep the clientele and make a few extra bucks.
Be kind to them and tip reasonably $40, $50, $60 based on what you can afford
 
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There are two sides to every story. Maybe a surprise to this board, but there are many... many RMT professionals who still earn their daily bread the old fashioned way. Through HARD WORK. And for a massage at $80/hr, their take is $40 to $55 (if it's not their own business) depending on a whole bunch of variables. The entire 'extras' biz is built around 'mutual greed'. That is the reality. No need for whimsical posts.

Providers simply get hooked in bring able to pocket 40 to 60 more per hour, tax free, and it's just too hard for many to resist it. Naturally with fav clients the range of services widens, and income generation goes up and up. Hard to leave that lucrative side of the biz.


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I am sorry if I am the only one to speak to this but FFS, are you saying you tip $20 when the level of attraction doesn’t meet your sophisticated scrutiny? That is the most offensive response I have seen in quite a while. Having said that I thought I blocked most of the the douchebags on this site but you just added to the list.
Just because the lady would rather not lose your pathetic chump change does not make it acceptable to treat her so poorly.
Gentlemen. $40 for basic extras is bare minimum. Accept it and stop trying to find a golden deal. FFS your lunch probably cost that much! Accept that having a complete stranger touching your junk is worth at least $40 and maybe the rest of us won’t have to deal with the poor attitudes from ladies who have to deal with cheap ass fools like yourself.
I will also point out that I have never tipped less than $50 and generally am $60+ because I have no misconceptions of what this is.
Holy fuck!

Since you said you blocked me then I guess you won't see this response. I commend you for being a white knight in the massage industry with your generous tips regardless of service or how the masseuse looks or takes care of herself. You deserve to be carried on a pedestal for your divine nobleness.

My number one reason for going to a massage is the actual massage and if they offer a HE then that's just the cherry on top. I'm a young guy and if the lady looks as old as my mom or there is zero attraction on my part then why would I pay her big $$ for a HE? You also get numerous ladies that rush thru the massage just to get to the HE part so they can short you on time. I've never once asked for a HE, they usually offer and if they don't I'm fine with it. They usually ask for $60-$80 and my price is always $40 and guess what, it's never been refused. The few times I offered $20 was because the massage was so bad or I got bait and switched for an auntie so I low balled because I didn't care since I was never coming back and guess what, that was accepted also.

I'm sure all the massage parlous put up a framed photo of you with the $60+ tips you dish out or maybe they just talk about the sucker that over pays every time you get a massage. One day if you're lucky you'll be able to date one of them or maybe get a number and exchange texts. Nothing looks more desperate then over paying for company but to each his own.
 
Since you said you blocked me then I guess you won't see this response. I commend you for being a white knight in the massage industry with your generous tips regardless of service or how the masseuse looks or takes care of herself. You deserve to be carried on a pedestal for your divine nobleness.

My number one reason for going to a massage is the actual massage and if they offer a HE then that's just the cherry on top. I'm a young guy and if the lady looks as old as my mom or there is zero attraction on my part then why would I pay her big $$ for a HE? You also get numerous ladies that rush thru the massage just to get to the HE part so they can short you on time. I've never once asked for a HE, they usually offer and if they don't I'm fine with it. They usually ask for $60-$80 and my price is always $40 and guess what, it's never been refused. The few times I offered $20 was because the massage was so bad or I got bait and switched for an auntie so I low balled because I didn't care since I was never coming back and guess what, that was accepted also.

I'm sure all the massage parlous put up a framed photo of you with the $60+ tips you dish out or maybe they just talk about the sucker that over pays every time you get a massage. One day if you're lucky you'll be able to date one of them or maybe get a number and exchange texts. Nothing looks more desperate then over paying for company but to each his own.
I commend you for being a white knight in the massage industry with your generous tips regardless of service or how the masseuse looks or takes care of herself. You deserve to be carried on a pedestal for your divine nobleness.

My number one reason for going to a massage is the actual massage and if they offer a HE then that's just the cherry on top. I'm a young guy and if the lady looks as old as my mom or there is zero attraction on my part then why would I pay her big $$ for a HE? You also get numerous ladies that rush thru the massage just to get to the HE part so they can short you on time. I've never once asked for a HE, they usually offer and if they don't I'm fine with it. They usually ask for $60-$80 and my price is always $40 and guess what, it's never been refused. The few times I offered $20 was because the massage was so bad or I got bait and switched for an auntie so I low balled because I didn't care since I was never coming back and guess what, that was accepted also.

I'm sure all the massage parlous put up a framed photo of you with the $60+ tips you dish out or maybe they just talk about the sucker that over pays every time you get a massage. One day if you're lucky you'll be able to date one of them or maybe get a number and exchange texts. Nothing looks more desperate then over paying for company but to each his own.

Well shit! Seems too many beers and an uncommon overt sense of morality may have contributed to my response of your post. I will apologize for the definitive stance however I stand by my objections.
To base your tips on a lady’s age or how closely she resembles your Mom is abhorrent. A $20 tip on a spectacular legit massage is rare but not unheard of, a $20 tip for a massage with HE and likely over the clothes groping is a level of exploitation that rivals some of the lowest shit we Pooners can levy on these ladies.
Quality of service most definitely dictates tip but your rating scheme, man, I thought I was a perpetual asshole but I stand corrected and step aside for the true king.
 
Well shit! Seems too many beers and an uncommon overt sense of morality may have contributed to my response of your post. I will apologize for the definitive stance however I stand by my objections.
To base your tips on a lady’s age or how closely she resembles your Mom is abhorrent. A $20 tip on a spectacular legit massage is rare but not unheard of, a $20 tip for a massage with HE and likely over the clothes groping is a level of exploitation that rivals some of the lowest shit we Pooners can levy on these ladies.
Quality of service most definitely dictates tip but your rating scheme, man, I thought I was a perpetual asshole but I stand corrected and step aside for the true king.
You missed his point entirely, Spexx... :lunatic
 
We can't ultimately talk about morality and what our morality is. Our support for prostitution being legal....is in itself regarded as immoral...and by likely half the population. Paying women for sex likely in itself, is considered by 90% of the population as immoral.

Now if you agreed to pay $40, and paid $20....that's another story. If she didn't do anything for you, looks-wise...refuse the h.e. altogether, keep your $20 and save it for the search of a better looking provider. And...If the massage sucked, don't give a tip at all and explain why. If you have a reputation for being a cheapskate when it comes to happy endings, it doesn't matter what your reasons are...more attractive girls might arrive at the same location....and they will avoid you like a plague.

As far as charging 60 for basic: if you think that is fair...go ahead. But, $40 is actually generous, if you go way more often to the lady than the $60 plus guy.

Bottom line...it's a bargaining tool...if men will agree to pay $60 plus...they will be more than happy to take it.

Quite frankly: I think guys are way too sensitive on this board. And this is coming from a guy who colours his hair, and likes "chick flicks"....especially the tear jerker ones.
 
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