Question Need an understanding about full expected damage at AMPs and the exotic ones like SRM and Allure and such

[newbie695]

So I've only been lurking here for a while and never gone to an MP before but I took the plunge and went to one a few days ago (posted a review - I enjoyed the experience) but it seems I paid way too much. I've a bunch of questions if I may:

Can I get a quick breakdown of how much I'm expected to pay for services at different places? I notice places like Lagoon and Seduction have crazy high rates and so many different kinds of fees like room fee, door fee, tip and such but I cant get an idea of the total damage.

Also I've been seeing threads saying the more expensive places extras are limited to strictly a HJ (as a standard) and the massage isn't as good as in an AMP. If that is the case, is it that we're basically paying upwards of $100 for an attractive attendant?

Would appreciate any responses and thanks in advance!

 

[xtc27]

Tips = 60/80/100 @ AMP...

60=nude HJ, 80=cbj or nude BS, 100=CFS.... cuter girls add 20 sometimes... well, they'll add whatever...

AMP normally charge rm fee 40/60/80... 40hh/60-45min/80hr, but Richmond Hill & few other places do 40/50/60

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Tips @ VIP

50=cbj, 100=cfs

Rmfee=$140hh.... check spa sched. No upcharge for HJ, that's included.

Russian/Italian= incl in HJ tip... just hj with different body part...

DATY... its friggn free or not offered... they should pay us! ...if u pay 4 DAY, u=loser...

 

[newbie695]

Tips = 60/80/100 @ AMP...

60=nude HJ, 80=cbj or nude BS, 100=CFS.... cuter girls add 20 sometimes... well, they'll add whatever...

AMP normally charge rm fee 40/60/80... 40hh/60-45min/80hr, but Richamond Hill & few other places do 40/50/60

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Tips @ VIP

50=cbj, 100=cfs

Rmfee=$140hh.... check spa sched. No upcharge for HJ, that's included.

Russian/Italian= incl in HJ tip... just hj with different body part...

DATY... its friggn free or not offered... they should pay us! ...if u pay 4 DAY, u=loser...

Oh excellent info man. Good breakdown! Thanks mate

 

[newbie695]

Sorry another (possibly stupid) question. What exactly is the difference between nude, reverse and body slide? The hell is reverse anyway?? I tried googling but nothing conclusive came up. Also I heard body slide is a rip-off, that true?

 

[Pay2Play]

Oh excellent info man. Good breakdown! Thanks mate

Since you were able to decipher that so quickly, could you translate for everyone else?

 

[newbie695]

Since you were able to decipher that so quickly, could you translate for everyone else?

hahahaha like I said I've been lurking for a while and Ive noticed when you crack xtc's code its good solid info

 

[Godaisan]

Sorry another (possibly stupid) question. What exactly is the difference between nude, reverse and body slide? The hell is reverse anyway?? I tried googling but nothing conclusive came up. Also I heard body slide is a rip-off, that true?

It's been a while since i've gone for an exotic massage.
I think it goes like this:
Nude: The attendant is Nude
Reverse (usually it's called nude reverse): you get to massage the attendant
Body slide: i think the name explains it all.

 

[OppaiLover]

Oh excellent info man. Good breakdown! Thanks mate

That 50/100 only applies to Seduction and the Premier spas. Even now some of the strippers at Seduction are charging 60/120 or 80/140.

Extras aren't really a thing at Allure so don't get your hopes up. And the rates at SRM are all over the place. Expect 100/200 going in but some girls may charge less.

 

[xtc27]

That 50/100 only applies to Seduction and the Premier spas. Even now some of the strippers at Seduction are charging 60/120 or 80/140.

Extras aren't really a thing at Allure so don't get your hopes up. And the rates at SRM are all over the place. Expect 100/200 going in but some girls may charge less.

Strippers = friggn entitled & spoiled... while SP who go2 spas... so happy! highest mileage & cheapest!

Everyone gonna be takin' discounts soon as all dudes stay home...

 

[LanceRomance]

Sorry another (possibly stupid) question. What exactly is the difference between nude, reverse and body slide? The hell is reverse anyway?? I tried googling but nothing conclusive came up. Also I heard body slide is a rip-off, that true?

I generally agree with XTC27's guidelines, although my understanding is that typical upgrades within MP limits are 40/60/80 = topless/Nude Reverse/Body Slide, and outside of limits upgrades are 100/120 = BJ/FS, usually covered at those rates. There does appear to be some variation based on spa quality and region of the GTA. TBH, I have never actually gone as low as the 40/60 rates only and it may be that my categorizing 40 = topless is anachronistic.

To explain "nude reverse". It actually is short for "nude reverse massage". Means the MPA agrees to strip down completely and allows intimate touching of her, essentially consensual sexual petting. YMMV will apply depending on the MPA.

Body slide implies a greater level of intimate body to body contact, with the MPA actually getting the massage table with you, and may involve her rubbing some part/s of her body against you to get you off. This could involve Russian or Italian finishes, or 69 position even if only performing a HJ. DATY may be available at this level. Not all MPAs are good at BS, but when they are it can be great. Two issues will be:
1) construction and size of the massage table - not all are good for accommodating two adults "comfortably", and
2) generally best with smaller and/or lighter girls, if they get on op of you.

NB: If any of our hobbying brethren see anything outdated in my assessment, I would appreciate updates. I believe full understanding of the market is one of the main purposes of sharing intel here.

I have found going for body slide rate typically results in pretty good sessions on average, since you do not come across as cheap, and the good MPAs will tend to provide a better GFE more willingly at this price point. Less and frankly I think they will try to finish you off asap and get you out the door. Just my impression.

Hope this helps. Good luck and YMMV.

 

[newbie695]

I generally agree with XTC27's guidelines, although my understanding is that typical upgrades within MP limits are 40/60/80 = topless/Nude Reverse/Body Slide, and outside of limits upgrades are 100/120 = BJ/FS, usually covered at those rates. There does appear to be some variation based on spa quality and region of the GTA. TBH, I have never actually gone as low as the 40/60 rates only and it may be that my categorizing 40 = topless is anachronistic.

To explain "nude reverse". It actually is short for "nude reverse massage". Means the MPA agrees to strip down completely and allows intimate touching of her, essentially consensual sexual petting. YMMV will apply depending on the MPA.

Body slide implies a greater level of intimate body to body contact, with the MPA actually getting the massage table with you, and may involve her rubbing some part/s of her body against you to get you off. This could involve Russian or Italian finishes, or 69 position even if only performing a HJ. DATY may be available at this level. Not all MPAs are good at BS, but when they are it can be great. Two issues will be:
1) construction and size of the massage table - not all are good for accommodating two adults "comfortably", and
2) generally best with smaller and/or lighter girls, if they get on op of you.

NB: If any of our hobbying brethren see anything outdated in my assessment, I would appreciate updates. I believe full understanding of the market is one of the main purposes of sharing intel here.

I have found going for body slide rate typically results in pretty good sessions on average, since you do not come across as cheap, and the good MPAs will tend to provide a better GFE more willingly at this price point. Less and frankly I think they will try to finish you off asap and get you out the door. Just my impression.

Hope this helps. Good luck and YMMV.

Appreciate the detailed explanation!

 

[LanceRomance]

Appreciate the detailed explanation!

Remember that explanation only applies to "holistic" or AMP spas. The high end places with body rub licenses are a different story altogether. Essentially the full upfront fee includes up to and including the Body Slide and of course HJ/HE, but in much nicer settings, with bigger, stronger tables, maybe a large two seater armchair, in-room showers, and usually consistently more attractive, younger MPAs. Extras like BJ/FS may or may not be on offer depending on the spa, so do your research before going if those are your objective. Some high end spas have more positive reputations than others, as I am sure you have seen by the discussions on this board.

 

[xtc27]

... Lance has got it right, but cost on low end... in real world, $40 topless HJ... pretty rare. Either they want $60 just 4 topless or they only offer nude $60... & some milfs go nude $40...

$20 no touch HJ only exist... gotta say, mebbe if I just got outta prison, sure, but...

... even Picko Limes’ quicki HJ, you get touching & HE...

 

[Godaisan]

I generally agree with XTC27's guidelines, although my understanding is that typical upgrades within MP limits are 40/60/80 = topless/Nude Reverse/Body Slide, and outside of limits upgrades are 100/120 = BJ/FS, usually covered at those rates. There does appear to be some variation based on spa quality and region of the GTA. TBH, I have never actually gone as low as the 40/60 rates only and it may be that my categorizing 40 = topless is anachronistic.

To explain "nude reverse". It actually is short for "nude reverse massage". Means the MPA agrees to strip down completely and allows intimate touching of her, essentially consensual sexual petting. YMMV will apply depending on the MPA.

Body slide implies a greater level of intimate body to body contact, with the MPA actually getting the massage table with you, and may involve her rubbing some part/s of her body against you to get you off. This could involve Russian or Italian finishes, or 69 position even if only performing a HJ. DATY may be available at this level. Not all MPAs are good at BS, but when they are it can be great. Two issues will be:
1) construction and size of the massage table - not all are good for accommodating two adults "comfortably", and
2) generally best with smaller and/or lighter girls, if they get on op of you.

NB: If any of our hobbying brethren see anything outdated in my assessment, I would appreciate updates. I believe full understanding of the market is one of the main purposes of sharing intel here.

I have found going for body slide rate typically results in pretty good sessions on average, since you do not come across as cheap, and the good MPAs will tend to provide a better GFE more willingly at this price point. Less and frankly I think they will try to finish you off asap and get you out the door. Just my impression.

Hope this helps. Good luck and YMMV.

Great Explanation Lance!