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Just counted the all the postcode areas (approx 105 so say 100) and divided it into 11000, so there is 110 GRCCT registrants per area, really?
 
Not really, CNHC is the only CAM regulator sponsored/funded/endorsed by the government. I don't even think GRCCT is a legal entity, it looks like it's run by a mother and son team who run a school and also heavily influence their professional lead body.

CAM is going through huge changes, the likes of which we have never encountered before, so not only does CNHC have to try to encourage therapists to register, they all have to fight off detractors not only from outside, but also inside the industry. Those that don't want change seem to be the ones with most to lose.

The govt has established that voluntary regs are good for CAM and decided to continue it's funding, which is a good thing IMO.
 
8 in mine, 7 in the neigbouring one, 9 in the closest big city to me, 0 in the closest big town to me
 
Agree with most points however note (despite being excellent courses) the "levels" quoted by MC / BTEC were "self awarded and have little to do with the real world ie: outside ISRM and definately not the QCF




which reinforces my point about nationally standardised levels of education, external policing and industry regulation

Jx
 
I agree, at my school, I have a minimum of 4 visits per year on accreditation/EV visits, this year in January already have had two visits, last year we had additional ones, at our request, and had 8. IMO these visits make the student feel confident that its not just them under scrutiny, we are also.

The problem is, this isnt always happening in all schools.
 
'Unfortunately' there already is supposed to be
However
Nationally standardised levels of education
QCF / WBA / RITS currently do not appear to be enforcing their requirements and have allowed several sub standard / incorrectly mapped qualifications onto the framework (examples and reasons available on request) and the water is now proving extremely muddy for those who wish to follow the rules

External policing
Ofqual appears to have a very 'charitable' approach to the enforcement of QMS requirements.

Industry regulation
Voluntary regulation allows some (again, examples available upon request) to simply ignore it all anyway

Confused ???

"Well, whenever I'm confused, I just check my underwear. It holds the answer to all the important questions." - Abe Simpson


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is this a record for the number of abbreviations in one post?
 
Examples would be nice. If voluntary regulation isn't doing what its supposed to be doing then how do we stop these schools from flouting the rules? Is Voluntary Regulation just a 'toothless tiger'?
 
Dan,
policing schools is not the job of the regulator. As an example...you would expect for someone to get HPC registration as a physio that they would undergo a good level of ultrasound training, as that is well within the remit of a physio, and is used by most. Wrong....in one university that I know of they dont like it so they dont teach it. Are you saying that statutory regulators are also toothless tigers?

Policing schools is the role of the education sector....it just so happens that this isnt occurring properly so the lead bodies have had to get involved to protect the regulator, and in turn, (attempt to) protect the public. (If you have opinions on that, please use the CNHC threads so as not to take this too far off topic again)

You know yourself that the course you have been doing doesnt meet anyones standards apart from their own, so what do they do, they work outside of regulation, and then theres no-one at all to slap their wrists.

Whilst it is not the job of the regulator to get involved in a schools standards, should they be informed that 'so & so' school is not delivering to the required standards, then they would not accept an application for registration from one of their graduates.
 
I refer back to a thread in which I publicly stated that Awarding organisations must shoulder the blame, they award the certificates based on evidence supplied by training providers.
if that training provider is less than honest, or photo copies large volumes of evidence, or allows theory papers to be undertaken in "open book " format.

Then the AO should be spot checking, FE has a minimum of 2 observations for each tutor by external assessors, evidence is sampled at 25=50 % depending on the lenght of time the qualification has been running t the FE college, this is because in private training providers, they access public funds, the AOs unfortunately dont police this enough, they blamer the lack of resources ( staff), but then state to the PAs that they cannot go and check these training centres.

One AO has the qualifications development manager, the qualificartions manager and a leading external verifier running their own schools, all of which fail to meet the minimum educational standards.....who exactly are externally checking these schools?

These have been brought to the attention of the regulator, and wil be discussed at a meeting at the end of the month, I will present evidence which shows recently permitted verifying organisations are flouting their responsibilities, I hope to have the verifiying status revoked or at least suspended until it is investigated and all their registered members audited. Unfortunately the regulator has to wait until these meetings and seek the advice of the PSB members before it can act, as these are the specialist in each case.

There are teething problem,. but they are being addressed.

bg
 
I've just got around to reading the January issue of Sportex. In amongst the interesting, not so interesting and frankly rubbish articles were a couple of quotes I thought I'd share. I recommend anybody interested in regulations, CNHC etc. etc. to have a read of it.

BASRaT Communications Co-ordinator Michael Nicol;
"It has become clear that statutory regulation of our field has become increasingly unlikely and now largely unworkable due to the high number of poorly qualified professionals now practising in the area."

BASRat are interesting to me as I come from a conditioning background and have generally fitted into the slot between the physios and fitness coaches with the teams I have worked with. Did they try to get rehabilitation regulated?

Bob Bramah, Editor Sportex;
".....there is nothing wrong with being a 'complementary therapist' but if you want to be taken seriously by the medical profession, especially in sport, it is a name you should avoid."

A personal view but interesting given that the SMA is working with the CNHC and this magazine is distributed to their members. Demonstrates the split in our field quite well.

Obviously these are just parts of the articles, so please have a look if you can so I can't be accused of taking things out of context. (And no I don't work for them so don't take this as advertising either.)
 
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    Wednesday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️Cindy, Kelly & Kiki. Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Kelly is slim and attractive with very slight curves, all natural coconuts, a nice bum, and rockin’ services.
  37. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5’3” with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  38. Peony Garden Spa:
    🌸3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY 🌸 NITA: A YOUNG FUN SIZED INDIAN GIRL, VERY FRIENDLY WITH A BEAUTIFUL FACE 🌸 JENNY: A TALL AND SLIM KOREAN GIRL THAT IS A TOTAL SERVICE QUEEN 🌸 EMILY: A PETITE CURVY THAI MIXED GIRL THAT IS NOT TIP HUNGRY AND VERY FRIENDLY, SPEAKS FLUENT ENGLISH 🌸 PEONY GARDEN SPA 🌸 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 🌸 (416) 335-6093 🌸
  39. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  40. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 7 hot brown girls today 🌸 SANA, ASHA, MALIYA, AMANDA, MAY, AAVI 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  41. Sparkling Spa:
    JAPANESE SENSATION CHANEL AND SERVICE QUEEN ZOE TODAY @⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️Y🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘
  42. bumika.vashi:
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  43. bumika.vashi:
    (((आपको बिना नाटक या नखरे करने वाला सर्विस चाहे तोह याद करना. ))) If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it. Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not forget to
  44. Pink Flower Spa:
    ✰ 416.299.5515 ✰ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8, Scarborough 🇻🇳🇻🇳 Vicky (New) Vietnamese woman, beautiful, tall, white skin, big booty 🇯🇵🇯🇵Yuki from Japan, a friendly and energetic host, provided an excellent fantasy session 🇱🇧🇱🇧 A talented Girl from Lebanon is joining our team🇮🇳🇮🇳 Sonia | Aniy from India is young & curvy, very pretty, lightly toned ✰ PINK FLOWER SPA ✰ 416.299.5515 ✰
  45. Flowers Spa:
    ✰ BLUEXADO SPA ✰ 416.357.9797 ✰ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6 Vaughan ✰ CANDY | MIMI (New) 19 years old, Vietnamese with a beautiful face, very young, and friendly. Must see. ✰ NANCY (New) from Singapore is pretty & slim with nice booty...Excellent Treatment... ✰ JULLIE | JESSIE a 19-year-old Chinese and Vietnamese woman, provides exceptional service with her youthful beauty.
  46. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️Y🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘 SERVICE QUEENS NEW GIRL SASA & ZOE TO SERVE YOU TODAY
  47. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 6 hot brown girls today 🌸 ASHA, MALIYA, AMANDA, MAY, AAVI 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  48. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯💯💯 - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Julia😘 - A shy new Korean girl waiting to
  49. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699We have 5 young girls for your enjoyment Tuesday : :heart4:heart4 New girl lisa :heart4 Judy - well proportioned model to bring toe curling fun Rina - petite beauty ready to rock your world Lucy- tall leggy beauty with nice figure Barbie -...
  50. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️Y🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘 SERVICE QUEENS NEW GIRL SASA & ZOE TO SERVE YOU TODA
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