Subcontracting work

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Periodically, I have a need to subcontract work in my practice. I try to be generous as far as compensation while keeping some profit for myself. I offer an hourly rate that is much higher than what Massage Envy or various local day spas pay but I frequently get resistance from the MTs to whom I'm offering this work because I am paying them less than what I am billing the client (I don't make a point to tell them what I charge, but my rates are posted on my website) even though in some cases I am offering to pay them the same rate (or even a few dollars more per hour) they are charging in their own practices. (And these are MTs who are not generally fully booked.)

Anyway, is this just my perception or do we really expect other MTs to pay us much more than we would accept from non-MT owned businesses?

If you're willing to reply in this thread, I would also appreciate if you would also state what your current hourly rate is (if you're in private practice) and what you would be willing to accept as a rate for subcontracted work, if you are open to taking on subcontracted work.

I'm just trying to get an idea of what everyone thinks because this is becoming an issue for me. Thanks!
 
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PIFATOS said:
I offer an hourly rate that is much higher than what Massage Envy or various local day spas pay but I frequently get resistance from the MTs to whom I'm offering this work because I am paying them less than what I am billing the client (I don't make a point to tell them what I charge, but my rates are posted on my website)

Even if they can look it up, it is immaterial to the discussion and the decision. This is a variation on the ridiculous "fair pay" mindset that clouds too many addled brains. It does not matter how much you (as the business owner) get paid by the client, when you get paid by the client or even IF you get paid by the client. The pay for the service is what the pay for the service is -- either that is worth the ICs time and effort or it isn't. Nothing else matters in making the decision to work for you or not. Everything else is emotion, not decisioin making

PIFATOS said:
even though in some cases I am offering to pay them the same rate (or even a few dollars more per hour) they are charging in their own practices. (And these are MTs who are not generally fully booked.)
Mind-boggling, isn't it?!?!? We have had many MTs over the year reject working for us because our pay as a % of the service price was "unfair" or "too low" even though the $$ per service were the highest they would ever see. You can't reason with irrationality, so move on to someone else who can do math.

A massage practice is similar to an airline or a hotel. Once the time slot passes unfilled, it is lost forever. All businesses that operate on this model -- and its not a choice, all MTs do -- need to understand the benefit of marginal revenue to their bottom lines.

Sure, having your own clients pays best, but when you don't have them you are well advised to generate whatever revenue you can in a smart way.
 
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PIFATOS said:
Periodically, I have a need to subcontract work in my practice. I try to be generous as far as compensation while keeping some profit for myself. I offer an hourly rate that is much higher than what Massage Envy or various local day spas pay but I frequently get resistance from the MTs to whom I'm offering this work because I am paying them less than what I am billing the client...



Anyway, is this just my perception or do we really expect other MTs to pay us much more than we would accept from non-MT owned businesses?

Hi. I'll do my best to throw in a few thoughts.

As a therapist who has a fairly busy practice, which can occasionally be "gappy" or slow at some points, I have been know to carve out some time to practice-sit for another therapist when she was out of town. In that case I was paid by the clients for the amount of a regular session at her office. Therefore, her practice visit cost is $60/hour and I was paid $60/hour session, unless the client was already set up under a fee discount plan, and then I accepted that as the pay. My personal practice fee is $75/hour. So, I lost some money on the hourly fee, but gained a little extra money over the course of the 4 weeks I worked for her as I had scheduled it around my private practice. I blogged about the experience at: It Seemed Like A Good Idea At the Time.

I have another colleague who has a similar practice to mine. Her complaint of other therapists is that they don't provide her clients with the quality of care she or the clients expect. For about 8 months we've been dancing a dance about practicing together or trying to work something out that would be useful for her concept of her practice.

Facts be facts, we're only about 20 mins. with traffic away from each other, and probably only about 11 miles. You'd think it would be simple for her to move to my practice location or me to move to hers, but our clients come from totally different directions around town. And, someone who drives 45 mins. to my office would have to drive 1 hour and 10 mins. to hers. Her clients all live "inside the loop" which means they won't usually even drive five minutes outside of that traffic loop to where my office is. Long story short, we're close and yet so far from each other on all sorts of planes. (This is just to give you a little background.)

She wants someone to contract with her when she is out of town on three week stints throughout the year and to pick up her overflow as needed.

As much as I would love to help her when she is out of town (she has a wonderful clientele who I know I would enjoy working with), I had told her that it is a better idea if those clients will just come to my office and pay my fee. Note, I will send them back to her. This plan of action was all fairly routine for me, as I have done this for years with other therapists.

As a matter of fact, I also provide my clients with names of other therapists in case they can't see me due to a full schedule. Rarely will they go see someone else, but occasionally they will need that option, and I would rather send them to someone I know is good , than to have them hope they find someone competent.

But, for her, this concept has been somewhat stressful. Her argument is, she wants to keep some income on each of those clients (so, even if she can't fit them in, she doesn't want to refer them to another person) and she is also worried about loosing clients to another therapist. She even asked, if I saw a client of hers in my office, if I would be willing to provide her something back for the referral. I just simply told her I don't work that way. I can absolutely understand her wishes and why she has them... but, all of her ideas were a bad fit for me, since I then loose valuable time to be available for my own clients and their needs.

I would be very interested in practicing with her, but I can't seem to find a way to make it work at this time.

In the end, she has started to relunctantly and judiciously refer a few clients to me when she goes out of town and has tested the waters with her clients she knows won't switch therapists. So, far everything has gone well, and I believe I am gaining her trust, that I don't want to try and "steal" or lure her clients to my practice.

I think as private practice therapists, even when we have a light schedule, we all have so many other business things we can or need to be doing, that unless an offer is fairly lucrative, it can make it hard to do contract work for another therapist.

Now a therapist who only works contract may be able to do that quite easily and be excited about the opportunity.

But, when a private therapist is out of the office, they loose valuable opportunities to build their practice, unless they schedule things properly. Unfortunately, sometimes there is a thin line between needing to be in the office and needing to do contract work. So, that may be what you are running into.

My thought, is that you may just want to see if you can find a therapist who would work with you, like I do with other therapists. It's a thought.
 
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pueppi said:
So, I lost some money on the hourly fee, but gained a little extra money over the course of the 4 weeks I worked for her as I had scheduled it around my private practice.

Let's be clear. You did NOT LOSE A DIME. Losing money means having less in your pocket at the end of the day than when you started. What you did was make money. You made less than you would have working for yourself, but if you could have worked for yourself (you were clear to point out you scheduled this AROUND your own practice) you would have. You MADE money. This is exactly the mindset that can get in the way of success. If you perceive that making money is losing money, you aren't making decisions based on facts.


pueppi said:
Her argument is, she wants to keep some income on each of those clients (so, even if she can't fit them in, she doesn't want to refer them to another person) and she is also worried about loosing clients to another therapist. She even asked, if I saw a client of hers in my office, if I would be willing to provide her something back for the referral.
Why shouldn't she get something? She made the expenditure in the location and advertising to obtain the clients and has served them well in creating loyalty and referrals.


pueppi said:
I just simply told her I don't work that way. I can absolutely understand her wishes and why she has them... but, all of her ideas were a bad fit for me, since I then loose valuable time to be available for my own clients and their needs.
If you have enough clients of your own, you should NEVER work for anyone else. You don't need the money. If you do need the money, working for someone else -- or even having someone else obtain the clients -- does have a value and you should recognize this.

A second or PT job ALWAYS pays less than your FT job. If it didn't, then it WOULD BE your FT job. Why go through the hassle, expense and risk of starting a practice when you can just sub for one of 20 MTs in town who are always in need of a day off and you can collect 100% of their fees and use their space and stuff?
 
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RelaxandRejuvenate said:
pueppi said:
So, I lost some money on the hourly fee, but gained a little extra money over the course of the 4 weeks I worked for her as I had scheduled it around my private practice.

Let's be clear. You did NOT LOSE A DIME. Losing money means having less in your pocket at the end of the day than when you started. What you did was make money. You made less than you would have working for yourself, but if you could have worked for yourself (you were clear to point out you scheduled this AROUND your own practice) you would have. You MADE money. This is exactly the mindset that can get in the way of success. If you perceive that making money is losing money, you aren't making decisions based on facts.

Yes... let's be clear. I said I lost a little money on my hourly fee. I did loose money on what would be my hourly fee in my private practice. I am not griping about it, so ditch the tone. I specifically said I "gained a little money" over the course of 4 weeks. Also, let's be clear that you are trying to start something fo no reason. :irked:


pueppi said:
Her argument is, she wants to keep some income on each of those clients (so, even if she can't fit them in, she doesn't want to refer them to another person) and she is also worried about loosing clients to another therapist. She even asked, if I saw a client of hers in my office, if I would be willing to provide her something back for the referral.
Why shouldn't she get something? She made the expenditure in the location and advertising to obtain the clients and has served them well in creating loyalty and referrals.

I never said she shouldn't. Again... you are trying to start something where there is nothing to start. Just because I mentioned her "argument", doesn't mean I am saying it is a bad reasoning if it is taking place in her office. I did however state "I can't find a way to make it work at this time" & that her "ideas were a bad fit for me".

Also, if a client is being referred to my office for whatever reason, I am not one to provide a kick-back when that client comes to my private practice.

Please re-read the complete thought, and then if you can't understand it better, I'll be happy to try and break it down better, as long as I feel like you are not just aiming to try to be a jack-a*s.

Re-post, so you don't have to go searching: ---->
  • "She wants someone to contract with her when she is out of town on three week stints throughout the year and to pick up her overflow as needed.

    As much as I would love to help her when she is out of town (she has a wonderful clientele who I know I would enjoy working with), I had told her that it is a better idea if those clients will just come to my office and pay my fee. Note, I will send them back to her. This plan of action was all fairly routine for me, as I have done this for years with other therapists.

    As a matter of fact, I also provide my clients with names of other therapists in case they can't see me due to a full schedule. Rarely will they go see someone else, but occasionally they will need that option, and I would rather send them to someone I know is good , than to have them hope they find someone competent.

    But, for her, this concept has been somewhat stressful. Her argument is, she wants to keep some income on each of those clients (so, even if she can't fit them in, she doesn't want to refer them to another person) and she is also worried about loosing clients to another therapist. She even asked, if I saw a client of hers in my office, if I would be willing to provide her something back for the referral. I just simply told her I don't work that way. I can absolutely understand her wishes and why she has them... but, all of her ideas were a bad fit for me, since I then loose valuable time to be available for my own clients and their needs.

    I would be very interested in practicing with her, but I can't seem to find a way to make it work at this time."



pueppi said:
I just simply told her I don't work that way. I can absolutely understand her wishes and why she has them... but, all of her ideas were a bad fit for me, since I then loose valuable time to be available for my own clients and their needs.
If you have enough clients of your own, you should NEVER work for anyone else. You don't need the money. If you do need the money, working for someone else -- or even having someone else obtain the clients -- does have a value and you should recognize this.

A second or PT job ALWAYS pays less than your FT job. If it didn't, then it WOULD BE your FT job. Why go through the hassle, expense and risk of starting a practice when you can just sub for one of 20 MTs in town who are always in need of a day off and you can collect 100% of their fees and use their space and stuff?

Again, you either didn't read the full context or were unable to comprehend what I was saying. I never said I don't recognize the value another therapist puts into gaining clients.

I disagree with your "NEVER" statement about working for someone if you have enough clients of your own. My life, practice and work are not solely about money. I actually do things that are not always the best thing for my pocketbook. That is my choice and each situation will negate how I make that particular choice.

I don't sub for 20 MT's in town who are always in need of a day off. Please re-read my post. :smt017
 
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pueppi said:
Yes... let's be clear. I said I lost a little money on my hourly fee. I did loose money on what would be my hourly fee in my private practice. I am not griping about it, so ditch the tone. I specifically said I "gained a little money" over the course of 4 weeks. .

No, you did not lose any money on your hourly fee. You did not have any clients willing to pay you your hourly fee during the hours that you sub contracted. If you did, you would not have subcontracted. You can't compare the $$ earned to subcontracting to mythical clients willing to pay your fee. There is only an "opportunity cost" if there was an actual opportunity lost.


pueppi said:
Her argument is, she wants to keep some income on each of those clients (so, even if she can't fit them in, she doesn't want to refer them to another person) and she is also worried about loosing clients to another therapist. She even asked, if I saw a client of hers in my office, if I would be willing to provide her something back for the referral.
Why shouldn't she get something? She made the expenditure in the location and advertising to obtain the clients and has served them well in creating loyalty and referrals.

pueppi said:
I never said she shouldn't. Again... you are trying to start something where there is nothing to start. Just because I mentioned her "argument", doesn't mean I am saying it is a bad reasoning if it is taking place in her office. I did however state "I can't find a way to make it work at this time" & that her "ideas were a bad fit for me"..

True, you did not use the word "shouldn't". YOur quote states her clients should come to you and pay your fee and you pay her $0 for working on them. Did not use the word "shouldn't", but it is pretty clear you don't think this other therapist deserves a dime. A distinction without a difference. YOu get 100% of the fee working on someone else's client.

You are trying to turn a sub-contract situation into a "referral". She is asking you to subcontract at her practice and to give you a % of the fee. YOu are turning it into "refer them to me and get $0". Having the client come to your practice instead of you seeing them in her practice is more convenient to you. And for this convenience that benefits you, you expect the other MT to earn LESS money. I have never seen a business that charges customers MORE when a transaction is MORE convenient to the business. Discounts are given when a client pays cash -- easier for the business to process. Pick up your groceriesn and it costs MORE than having them delivered.

pueppi said:
I disagree with your "NEVER" statement about working for someone if you have enough clients of your own. My life, practice and work are not solely about money. I actually do things that are not always the best thing for my pocketbook. That is my choice and each situation will negate how I make that particular choice. [/quote4]

And NEVER working for someone else if you have enough clients of your own is not just about money either.

pueppi said:
I don't sub for 20 MT's in town who are always in need of a day off. You are making up items, instead of reading my post. :smt017
I never said you did. I was applying the principle you cited to the market place. If working for someone else should net you the same as working for yourself, then everyone would be better off working for others, which is a logical and mathmatecial impossibility, which is why that logic does not work.
 
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I really do appreciate both of you for making such passionate replies to my question but it seems as if the debate which has arisen is taking this thread away from my original question. I'm hoping you two can "agree to disagree" at this point and hopefully other members will feel free to contribute also.

Thank you both!
 
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PIFATOS said:
I really do appreciate both of you for making such passionate replies to my question but it seems as if the debate which has arisen is taking this thread away from my original question.

This is a manifestation of your question. Why do some MTs think they should make X when they subcontract and X when they work for themselves? I don't understand why -- does not compute from a business stand point for either party.
 
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RelaxandRejuvenate said:
No, you did not lose any money on your hourly fee. You did not have any clients willing to pay you your hourly fee during the hours that you sub contracted. If you did, you would not have subcontracted.
:roll: Whatever.

Of course I had clients willing to pay me during the time I sub-contracted. I chose to not to make those days/times available to those clients.

True, you did not use the word "shouldn't". YOur quote states her clients should come to you and pay your fee and you pay her $0 for working on them. Did not use the word "shouldn't", but it is pretty clear you don't think this other therapist deserves a dime. A distinction without a difference. YOu get 100% of the fee working on someone else's client.

You are trying to turn a sub-contract situation into a "referral". She is asking you to subcontract at her practice and to give you a % of the fee. YOu are turning it into "refer them to me and get $0". Having the client come to your practice instead of you seeing them in her practice is more convenient to you. And for this convenience that benefits you, you expect the other MT to earn LESS money. I have never seen a business that charges customers MORE when a transaction is MORE convenient to the business. Discounts are given when a client pays cash -- easier for the business to process. Pick up your groceriesn and it costs MORE than having them delivered.]

No, I am not trying to do anything. She asked if I wanted to sub-contract. I did not. I then offered to take the clients who needed a therapist (while she was out of town) in my office for my fee. That is a business decision that a therapist is welcome to agree to or dismiss. I don't "expect" anything. This is what I do when I leave town, and it is fine for me. If it is not fine for someone else, that is their business decision. I do not give cash discounts.

...but it is pretty clear you don't think this other therapist deserves a dime.
*coughs* Bu*sh't. This therapist is a friend of mine. Don't even begin to try and tell me what I think she deserves.

pueppi said:
I never said you did. I was applying the principle you cited to the market place. If working for someone else should net you the same as working for yourself, then everyone would be better off working for others, which is a logical and mathmatecial impossibility, which is why that logic does not work.

Well, your application fails to make sense, as I did not insinuate that I felt it was mandatory for anyone to work for someone else and get paid the same as working for ones-self. You are applying your logic to an idea you have contrived which is not equal to the idea I tried to impart.
 
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PIFATOS said:
I really do appreciate both of you for making such passionate replies to my question but it seems as if the debate which has arisen is taking this thread away from my original question. I'm hoping you two can "agree to disagree" at this point and hopefully other members will feel free to contribute also.

Thank you both!

I can agree to disagree.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’ฅ4386 Sheppard Avenue east ๐Ÿ’ฏโฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’˜Saturday, โฃ๐Ÿ’‹ โ€ŠApple,๐Ÿ’˜๐Ÿ’• tall and sexy body, C's, very pretty and, friendly, firm relaxation treatment and great release โฃ๐Ÿ’• Natasha,๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹tall and slim build, too sexy, nice personality, great treatment โค๐Ÿ’ž Fifi, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹small girl; but well stacked, newly trained, wants to please you ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ โ€ŠMimi,๐Ÿ’—average height, large curvy build, very pretty, great treatment options.๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ”‹416 297-7488๐Ÿ”‹
  17. lemon_tree:
    ๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’ฏa discreet entrance at 4155 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 201 ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’ฅโฃSaturday, ๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ’ž Tina / ๐Ÿ’‹Gracie๐Ÿ’‹ average height and slim build, friendly and sexy, long dark hair, nice treatment, over the top service. ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’˜ ๐Ÿ“ž 647 348-2899๐Ÿ“ž
  18. Red_Pearl_Spa:
    โค๐Ÿ’‹4385 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 5๐Ÿ”บ๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ดSaturday, โค๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’‹ Tammy, full body treatment by an amazing attendant, good overall treatment. ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Kelly today for an amazing treatment... 5'5", long light brown hair, at least C's. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ โ˜Ž๏ธ 647 352-1588โ˜Ž๏ธ
  19. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธLayra๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  20. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธCandy๐ŸŒธHellenCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  21. gold__rose__spa:
    ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿต1536 Warden Avenue ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’•Saturday, ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Sophia,๐Ÿ’— tall .and slim, toned and in shape, nice boobs, very white, smooth skin. customer service oriented. Pretty and friendly ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Fifi, for more traditional style treatment and quality services, solid body, strong, ๐Ÿ’๐ŸŒน ๐Ÿ“ณ 647 346-8086๐Ÿ“ณ
  22. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet student 26โ€™s with curve body open mind and young fun Yoyo 30โ€™s with 36DD sexy body open mind, young flirty Michelle 25โ€™s with sexy body open mind and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  23. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  24. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & MAGGIE. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E)
  25. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower body scrub Sea Salt Bath๐Ÿ‘every day 2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Nice girl Ivy โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 36 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Suki๐Ÿ˜˜sexy body ๐ŸคชBeautiful tits๐Ÿ˜˜very good deep tissue massage, back walking has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected servic
  26. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga
  27. Double_Tree:
    โคโค4271 Sheppard Avenue east, ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’ฏ Saturday,๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’‹ Nina, tall and full build, very experienced touch that will relax you and relieve all stress. ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’ž โ€ŠXixi, medium height and build and nicely curved. Pretty, brown hair to shoulder. over the top finish+. ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ“ž416 293-5071๐Ÿ“ž
  28. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Girl Faye, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญMIA๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  29. Bodybuilder:
    is she the same sara at Acewell? what is her background?
  30. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Saturday April 26, 2025, our attendants will be Opal ๐Ÿค—, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜, Lucy ๐Ÿ˜ and Sophie ๏ธ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  31. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Young girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  32. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.open long weekend ,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…beautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…long hair new Lily is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch really popular ๐ŸŒนlong hair Vietnamese Amy friendly open mind,everything she can do ,have happy weekend๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  33. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Friday Happy Happy!!!๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•36D Flora, Eva, Coco, JPN Yui, Happy, Cindy, Jasmine& Doris โ€” pamper yourself๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  34. Golden Flower Spa:
  35. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  36. Pink Flower Spa:
  37. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  38. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 3 very hot girls today. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. ASHLEY is a beautiful slim Korean student, snow white skin, 5'2, 100 Lbs, natural
  39. HollywoodSpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: MIMI & TRACY. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž MIMI is a slim Chinese spinner hottie with a great ass, great body slide & liberal services. TRACY is a slim, taller & pretty lady, very friendly with an extensive menu. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: LINA & CINDY. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best!
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, LUNA, SASHA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SASHA is Indian, C Cup, 5'2"
  43. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and young student Taiwanese 25โ€™s slime open mind, young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with sexy body open mind and sweet GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  44. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : Friday Schedule โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Yuki 24, Korean Slim , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  45. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia๏ผŒyoung girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Aad,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  46. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  47. Red_Pearl_Spa:
    โค๐Ÿ’‹4385 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 5 ๐Ÿ”บ๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ดFriday, ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Kelly, ๐Ÿ’–today for an amazing treatment... 5'5", long light brown hair, at least C's...๐Ÿ’‹โฃ โ˜Ž๏ธ 647 352-1588โ˜Ž๏ธ
  48. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  49. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธIvyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approa
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