Question Valarie @ Premier

[Justine2016]

I saw Valarie at Pure last year (2021) and I was underwhelmed by her service and never repeated. She just joined Twitter and according to her Twitter she is more open minded now. I want to see if anyone has had a recent experience and if her sessions have improved.

 

[Average_Olivia@Premier]

Meh, not the best service but she’s hot so they won’t get rid of her

She doesn't like being touched. So doesn't matter how hot she is as she's a complete waste of time.

 

[Justine2016]

She doesn't like being touched. So doesn't matter how hot she is as she's a complete waste of time.

That's not true, she doesn't like to be touched if you don't buy extras. What I don't understand is how her pricing at the SPA is so much higher then at Mirage Escorts.

 

[Average_Olivia@Premier]

That's not true, she doesn't like to be touched if you don't buy extras. What I don't understand is how her pricing at the SPA is so much higher then at Mirage Escorts.

Easy solution, see her as an SP and never at the spa.

 

[Sybarite]

That's not true, she doesn't like to be touched if you don't buy extras. What I don't understand is how her pricing at the SPA is so much higher then at Mirage Escorts.

I presume her pricing at Mirage is just whatever the posted rates are, but what is her pricing at the spa?

 

[Justine2016]

I presume her pricing at Mirage is just whatever the posted rates are, but what is her pricing at the spa?

At Mirage Escorts her rates are 200 for 30 Min and 300 for 60 Min which includes BBBJ and CFS. At the SPA as recently as this weekend she was asking 150 for CFS with CBJ and 200 for CFS with BBBJ.

 

[theexposedtruth]

Oh great, she left Premier but now she's bringing that same mentality to Seduction as Kitana.
Good luck to ya'll that get suckered in.

 

[Fakes125]

Oh great, she left Premier but now she's bringing that same mentality to Seduction as Kitana.
Good luck to ya'll that get suckered in.

thanks for letting us know

 

[Justine2016]

Oh great, she left Premier but now she's bringing that same mentality to Seduction as Kitana.
Good luck to ya'll that get suckered in.

Honestly she is a weird girl as she is very different at Mirage vs. at Premier. I thought the reason was maybe she just didn't like Premier and she would be more like her Mirage self at Seductions.

 

[Average_Olivia@Premier]

She's not very bright if she thinks working at Seduction will improve her situation.

 

[MysterE Man]

She's not very bright if she thinks working at Seduction will improve her situation.

Who knows. Elevate gets a lot of foot traffic, and a lot of customers who just want a quick in-and-out session. That's a residual of it formerly being Flirt and the establishment holding on to a lot of the old customer base since the transition. I've only been in a few times since, but it feels more like Flirt than the Seductions on Keele, even after re branding. I don't get the sense all the girls are drinking and doing blow in the back, which is absolutely the sense I get at Seductions, esp. on a Saturday night.

I've been to the Elevate/Perla plaza a few times over the past few months, and every time I go, the Elevate parking lot seems a bit busier vs. the Perla one. I think people on these boards tend to overestimate how representative they are of the overall client base. A huge number of guys just pop in and ask for the lineup, then select the prettiest girl they see. Kitana/Val is very pretty, so on that alone, she's going to get decent business, you would assume.

As I've pointed out before, I don't think the hate is warranted. I've had lots worse sessions at Premier than I had with Val. She's nice, attractive, and gave me a good service. And there wasn't a wild upsell either. So I dunno....to each their own? Sounds like it.

I wish her well.

 

[Average_Olivia@Premier]

Who knows. Elevate gets a lot of foot traffic, and a lot of customers who just want a quick in-and-out session. That's a residual of it formerly being Flirt and the establishment holding on to a lot of the old customer base since the transition. I've only been in a few times since, but it feels more like Flirt than the Seductions on Keele, even after re branding. I don't get the sense all the girls are drinking and doing blow in the back, which is absolutely the sense I get at Seductions, esp. on a Saturday night.

I've been to the Elevate/Perla plaza a few times over the past few months, and every time I go, the Elevate parking lot seems a bit busier vs. the Perla one. I think people on these boards tend to overestimate how representative they are of the overall client base. A huge number of guys just pop in and ask for the lineup, then select the prettiest girl they see. Kitana/Val is very pretty, so on that alone, she's going to get decent business, you would assume.

As I've pointed out before, I don't think the hate is warranted. I've had lots worse sessions at Premier than I had with Val. She's nice, attractive, and gave me a good service. And there wasn't a wild upsell either. So I dunno....to each their own? Sounds like it.

I wish her well.

I go to Perla regularly and parking lot spaces taken and used seem almost equal for both establishments slightly leaning towards Elevate. Valerie was always available at Pure despite being pretty. That tells you alot and I also think her reputation will follow her to Elevate. I think a lot of the criticism Val receives is because of her attitude. I have wanted to book Valerie but I won't based on reviews of her attitude. She's perfect for Seduction/Elevate. A great match.

 

[pussyforlunch]

Who knows. Elevate gets a lot of foot traffic, and a lot of customers who just want a quick in-and-out session. That's a residual of it formerly being Flirt and the establishment holding on to a lot of the old customer base since the transition. I've only been in a few times since, but it feels more like Flirt than the Seductions on Keele, even after re branding. I don't get the sense all the girls are drinking and doing blow in the back, which is absolutely the sense I get at Seductions, esp. on a Saturday night.

I've been to the Elevate/Perla plaza a few times over the past few months, and every time I go, the Elevate parking lot seems a bit busier vs. the Perla one. I think people on these boards tend to overestimate how representative they are of the overall client base. A huge number of guys just pop in and ask for the lineup, then select the prettiest girl they see. Kitana/Val is very pretty, so on that alone, she's going to get decent business, you would assume.

As I've pointed out before, I don't think the hate is warranted. I've had lots worse sessions at Premier than I had with Val. She's nice, attractive, and gave me a good service. And there wasn't a wild upsell either. So I dunno....to each their own? Sounds like it.

I wish her well.

Premier is going super downhill

 

[Average_Olivia@Premier]

Premier is going super downhill

Then why is their roster stacked? Why are there far more complaints on here about Seduction/Elevate than about Premier? Keep dreaming

 

[LeeAvalon]

I don't quite understand the heat Valerie gets.

I've had two sessions with her and I thought she was really good both times. Her BJ skills are first rate, and she was very sexual/sensual in the room. She's also gorgeous.

My best guess is that she's just YMMV. Not all girls fake it that well, and let's be honest...some of the guys who come in are really dirty/fat/gross. But as long as you're not disgusting, and are clean, and are nice...she's going to give you a good session.

I think I'll try to book her soon. I will come back and tell you all how good it was.

i might be able to provide some insight here. i know valerie. the heat valerie gets is because she actually believes that she is simply better than every other premier girl, and so she charges double the standard (and premier recommended) rates and is hilariously offended the second a client has the ”nerve” to not pay double for the same/worse service. the “nerve” to tell her, no i’m not going to pay your ridiculous rates. by rejecting the idea that she is not literally worth 2x as much as every other premier girl, you’ve already ruined your chance of having a “good session” with this girl. so what if she’s “sensual and gorgeous”? she’s no more sensual and no more gorgeous than any other premier girl, she just thinks she is and you sir are stupid enough to have fallen for that weird and hilariously ridiculous scheme.

the problem is not that most clients are “fat, dirty or gross”. the problem is that she is a fragile stuck up idiot and most clients aren’t a fan of that type of person. she does not conduct herself in a normal, straightforward way. she is manipulative, but she’s so dumb that most people (except for you apparently) see right through her half-assed schemes. she cannot confront the idea that there is a possibility that she’s actually no better than any other girl at premier, and could in fact be much worse lol.

“valerie”, good fucking luck at elevate as “kitana” and i’m so happy that you were finally fired from premier. you might be pretty, but it’s all for nothing for the disgusting look you constantly have on your face. this girl despite being asian will age terribly lol. you’re not smart. you’re not funny. you’re not kind. you’re not likeable. you’re not trustworthy. you’re fucked. you are a clown, but we’re all laughing at you. not with you lol.

and you sir are a bit dumb in my opinion for not seeing her clearly here.

 

[MysterE Man]

i might be able to provide some insight here. i know valerie. the heat valerie gets is because she actually believes that she is simply better than every other premier girl, and so she charges double the standard (and premier recommended) rates and is hilariously offended the second a client has the ”nerve” to not pay double for the same/worse service. the “nerve” to tell her, no i’m not going to pay your ridiculous rates. by rejecting the idea that she is not literally worth 2x as much as every other premier girl, you’ve already ruined your chance of having a “good session” with this girl. so what if she’s “sensual and gorgeous”? she’s no more sensual and no more gorgeous than any other premier girl, she just thinks she is and you sir are stupid enough to have fallen for that weird and hilariously ridiculous scheme.

the problem is not that most clients are “fat, dirty or gross”. the problem is that she is a fragile stuck up idiot and most clients aren’t a fan of that type of person. she does not conduct herself in a normal, straightforward way. she is manipulative, but she’s so dumb that most people (except for you apparently) see right through her half-assed schemes. she cannot confront the idea that there is a possibility that she’s actually no better than any other girl at premier, and could in fact be much worse lol.

“valerie”, good fucking luck at elevate as “kitana” and i’m so happy that you were finally fired from premier. you might be pretty, but it’s all for nothing for the disgusting look you constantly have on your face. this girl despite being asian will age terribly lol. you’re not smart. you’re not funny. you’re not kind. you’re not likeable. you’re not trustworthy. you’re fucked. you are a clown, but we’re all laughing at you. not with you lol.

and you sir are a bit dumb in my opinion for not seeing her clearly here.

I never paid her anywhere near double for services. I'm sorry if that's what she quoted when you saw her. I was only slightly above normal rates (i.e. 20 bucks or so).

As for the rest, you just sound bitter. So maybe she didn't like you? Who knows.

I've had far worse sessions before. In fact, I had one a few weeks ago at Pure, that was probably one of the weakest ever. But I also had a 10/10 session on the weekend. So it evens itself out, and there's no sense dwelling on the ones that don't work out so well.

If you didn't have a good session with Valerie, just go see some other girl and move on. Really, who cares. It's not like she's out shooting her mouth off on boards or on social media about the customers or anything like that. I stand by what I said. Val is a nice girl who is more YMMV than anything else. The hate is undeserved.

 

[LeeAvalon]

I never paid her anywhere near double for services. I'm sorry if that's what she quoted when you saw her. I was only slightly above normal rates (i.e. 20 bucks or so).

As for the rest, you just sound bitter. So maybe she didn't like you? Who knows.

I've had far worse sessions before. In fact, I had one a few weeks ago at Pure, that was probably one of the weakest ever. But I also had a 10/10 session on the weekend. So it evens itself out, and there's no sense dwelling on the ones that don't work out so well.

If you didn't have a good session with Valerie, just go see some other girl and move on. Really, who cares. It's not like she's out shooting her mouth off on boards or on social media about the customers or anything like that. I stand by what I said. Val is a nice girl who is more YMMV than anything else. The hate is undeserved.

it’s interesting that you’ve decided to write me off as a bitter asshole rather than seeing the bigger picture here. do you really think your unfathomable positive opinion of valerie discredits what me and 95% of other commenters think of her? if there’s no use dwelling on bad experiences why are you even responding to my message? and really, you’re asking who cares? clearly, it’s you.

but sure, stand by what you say and see where your odd and hilariously delusional ideas take you. have fun living in a fantasy world being manipulated by awful people. guess that’s comfortable to you, friend. how can you believe it’s simply ymmv when it’s not just a few people who don’t like her; it’s the collective opinion of this site and of premier, as they fired her. apparently she was also borderline abusive to several other girls at pure. what makes you think the hate is undeserved? name one positive quality valerie has, because she certainly isn’t “nice”. she pretends to be nice to get what she wants. if you don’t give her what she wants (ego inflation, money), she will treat you like a literal piece of shit. i think you just like being treated like a piece of shit, because you know somewhere deep down that that is what you are

 

[MysterE Man]

it’s interesting that you’ve decided to write me off as a bitter asshole rather than seeing the bigger picture here. do you really think your unfathomable positive opinion of valerie discredits what me and 95% of other commenters think of her? if there’s no use dwelling on bad experiences why are you even responding to my message? and really, you’re asking who cares? clearly, it’s you.

but sure, stand by what you say and see where your odd and hilariously delusional ideas take you. have fun living in a fantasy world being manipulated by awful people. guess that’s comfortable to you, friend. how can you believe it’s simply ymmv when it’s not just a few people who don’t like her; it’s the collective opinion of this site and of premier, as they fired her. apparently she was also borderline abusive to several other girls at pure. what makes you think the hate is undeserved? name one positive quality valerie has, because she certainly isn’t “nice”. she pretends to be nice to get what she wants. if you don’t give her what she wants (ego inflation, money), she will treat you like a literal piece of shit. i think you just like being treated like a piece of shit, because you know somewhere deep down that that is what you are

Or maybe I just had good experiences with Val?

I'm sorry if that bothers you!

PS I think it's pretty clear you're another Pure attendant. Just relax. She's gone, and you got your way. Move on and let it go.

 

[Average_Olivia@Premier]

Good riddance Valerie.
Finally fired.

 

[Potato]

If a girl can't give at least a decent/good session for the standard price of $150 for hh/ 40 min, thats a big red flag. Candyman its good that you've clicked, you can have her.

 

[Average_Olivia@Premier]

Or maybe I just had good experiences with Val?

I'm sorry if that bothers you!

PS I think it's pretty clear you're another Pure attendant. Just relax. She's gone, and you got your way. Move on and let it go.

LeeAvalon is telling the truth though as much as it may hurt you to read it. Valerie is trash and a waste of time.