Who regulates TCM and Acupuncture practitioners?

Dyann S

New Member
Joined
Oct 12, 2010
Messages
15
Reaction score
0
Points
1
Hi,

I'm just curious about who (if anyone) regulates people that practiceChinese herbal medicine or Tui Na or Acupuncture?

Is there any minimum qualification people need? Is it against the law to operate without *some* kind of qualification, or can anyone (in theory) do it?

As a patient, what questions should one ask in order to know if the practitioner is genuine or a cowboy?

I have heard that diagnosing patients is a touchy area in terms of the law. Is that correct? Also, does that apply to the use of tongue and pulse diagnosis? Or is it really talking about diagnosing specific, named, conditions or diseases?

Cheers
 
Hi Clifton

In the UK? ...

Regulation:
Chinese Herbs: RCHM (Register of Herbal Medicine)
Acupuncture: BAcC (British Acupuncture Council)
Tuina: proper courses require students to already have an acupuncture qualification (LicAc).

BAAB = British Acupuncture Accreditation Board: these guys set the standards for acupuncture education in the UK.

So for herbs, look for the letters RCHM, for acupuncture look for MBAcC

"Cowboys":
If the practitioner doesn't have these letters, they may have done as little as a couple of weekends training or no training at all (that includes GPs, nurses, physios, osteo etc).

As a rough guide, you can ask about training in the specific discipline: for example acupuncture and herbs each take around 3 years full time.

Pretending to be a practitioner:
Yes, anyone can set up as a practitioner of any therapy that isn't state regulated (currently medics, physios, osteos and chiros). Everything else is open to whoever, so always check the qualifications!!!! (That includes GPs, nurses, physios, osteo etc who are offering complementary medicine!!!!). Acupuncture & Herbs are undergoing state regulation, which will come into effect within a few years.

Diagnosis:
A properly qualified practitioner of Chinese medicine is qualified to make a Chinese medical diagnosis. This is usually the only diagnosis that has relevance to Chinese medicine (funnily enough!).


HTH
Aragorn x
 
Thank you Aragorn.

Would studying Tui Na and Acupuncture via Bodyharmonics college lead to problems in the future?

The details are here: [link=http://www.bodyharmonics.co.uk/courses/index.htm]http://www.bodyharmonics.co.uk/courses/index.htm[/link]

It doesn't seem to be BAcC or BAAB registered, but neither is it a one-weekend Mickey Mouse diploma. (Or at least it doesn't seem to be.)

The site says the following about the accreditation:

Cheers
 
Hi Clifton
Sorry, but I don't recognise this course or the professional body mention, which sort of implies that it may not be accredited, but you might be better off checking with the BAcC as they are more likely to know.
www.acupuncture.org.uk
 
Shoutbox
  1. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹2 girls 🔥🔥🔥5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke☎️416-817-3366👍 Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub😘 Japanese girl Nina ❤️ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD 😘Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable😘😘😘😘 very provocative service😘😘😘, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise😍😍😍😍❤️You are welcome to make an appoint
  2. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness ♥️♥️90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, 🍭🍬ON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: 🌹Superstar Julie and Beautiful Tiffany on duty🌹.
  3. DareDevil:
    🍬🍭ARIA WELLNESS 🍬🍭ADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, ♥️RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) ♥️TODAY'S Schedule!♥️ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Busty Girl Faye, Ellagant Ella, Magical Mia and Work out🏋🚴💪 Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS 🍬🍭FAYE🍬🍭**
  4. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Elena Vietnamese sweetheart girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl ☎️647- 446-0886
  5. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Sunday April 27, 2025, our attendants will be Cici 😍, Vicky 🥳, Lucy 🥰, Ada 🥰 and Opal 🤩. Call us at ☎️(905) 479-6668☎️ to book!
  6. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness 90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. Today's girls are Lovely Lisa, Beautiful Tiffany.
  7. DareDevil:
    158 ARIA WELLNESS ♥️ADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) ♥️TODAY'S Schedule!♥️ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Girl Faye, Magical Mia and Work out🏋🚴💪 Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS 🍬🍭FAye🍬🍭**
  8. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : Saturday Schedule ❤️❤️ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , 😍😍Porn Service 🩷🩷Yumi 24, Philippine girl , 36EE big boobs and 🍑🍑ASS, 💋💋Mimi 24, Korean Slim , 😈bbbj , DFk 🔥Duo 🔥,☎️ 6475318288
  9. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  10. wilson holistic centre:
    💕💕Beautiful New girl Kiki working at 382 Wilson Ave 💕💕☎️☎️416-840-0071❤️❤️
  11. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : Saturday Schedule ❤️❤️ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , 😍😍Porn Service 🩷🩷Yumi 24, Philippine girl , 36EE big boobs and 🍑🍑ASS, 💋💋Mimi 24, Korean Slim , 😈bbbj , DFk 🔥Duo 🔥,☎️ 6475318288
  12. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : Saturday Schedule ❤️❤️ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , 😍😍Porn Service 🩷🩷Yumi 24, Philippine girl , 36EE big boobs and 🍑🍑ASS, 💋💋Mimi 24, Korean Slim , 😈bbbj , DFk 🔥Duo 🔥,☎️ 6475318288
  13. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Mia Vietnamese sweetheart girl with amazing personality Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Barbie Petite Korea Part time School girl Elena Vietnamese sweetheart girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl ☎️647- 446-0886
  14. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹 Table shower body scrub Sea Salt Bath👍every day 2 girls 🔥🔥🔥5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke☎️416-817-3366👍 Nice girl Ivy ❤️ Natural Big Boobs 36 DD 😘Hot body slide, super enjoyable😘😘😘😘 very provocative service😘😘😘, professional super Suki😘sexy body 🤪Beautiful tits😘very good deep tissue massage, back walking has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected servic
  15. wilson holistic centre:
    💕💕Beautiful New girl Kiki working at 382 Wilson Ave 💕💕☎️☎️416-840-0071❤️❤️ Edit
  16. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️( 647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️( 437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥💋Limited Time Special Promotion🔥💋 ✅💦30 Minutes Nude Massage
  17. Pink Flower Spa:
  18. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Doris ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Koko ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,🏠 address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👅👅🦵🦵🈵🈵👄👄
  19. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Emily, Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Linda , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Cici, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 🏠 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 👅👅🈵🈵👄👄🦵🦵
  20. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: CHRISTINA, LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set
  21. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Gigi, Sara & Tracy. Sara is young & slim with nice C Cups, trim waist, sexy bum and long hair. She is vary friendly uses her assets well. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5’1” and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  22. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at 𝗔𝗟𝗜𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟮𝟵𝟴-𝟬𝟴𝟵𝟴. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] Alice spa has 3 attractive honeys today. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. ASHLEY
  23. wonderspa:
    🌺welcome to wonder spa☎️416-5000-800,L6a4H8,open10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Ensuit shower available 🍅,new friendly nice girl CiCi,providing oil deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide,back work,🍅nice Vietnamese Amy is very good looking,big breasted sweet friendly ,open maid,amazing massage ,must try🔥🔥Have nice weekend
  24. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    ✨Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! ✅ Click Here Today🌸Anna🌸Jessica🌸Nina🌸Layra🌸Tania Call us ☎ 905 - 265 - 2158☎️ Your ultimate service awaits! ✨
  25. Soul Relax Spa:
    ✨ Looking for a relaxing escape? ✅ Click Here Meet🌸Tina🌸Candy🌸HellenCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now ☎ 289 - 298 - 5662☎️ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! ✨
  26. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet student 26’s with curve body open mind and young fun Yoyo 30’s with 36DD sexy body open mind, young flirty Michelle 25’s with sexy body open mind and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  27. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Judy😘🔥Our new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  28. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️: AMY & MAGGIE. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Don’t miss out on her special skills! Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. 🌴😎🌅HOLIDAY SPA🌅😎🌴 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E)
  29. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹 Table shower body scrub Sea Salt Bath👍every day 2 girls 🔥🔥🔥5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke☎️416-817-3366👍 Nice girl Ivy ❤️ Natural Big Boobs 36 DD 😘Hot body slide, super enjoyable😘😘😘😘 very provocative service😘😘😘, professional super Suki😘sexy body 🤪Beautiful tits😘very good deep tissue massage, back walking has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected servic
  30. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga
  31. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS ♥️ADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) ♥️TODAY'S Schedule!♥️ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Girl Faye, Magical Mia and Work out🏋🚴💪 Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS 🍬🍭MIA🍬🍭**
  32. Bodybuilder:
    is she the same sara at Acewell? what is her background?
  33. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Saturday April 26, 2025, our attendants will be Opal 🤗, Vicky 😍, Lucy 😍 and Sophie. Call us at ☎️(905) 479-6668☎️ to book!
  34. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹3 girls 😘Table shower 、body scrub 、 Sea salt bath👍5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke☎️416-817-3366👍 Young girl Cherry (Student)😘😘“charming breasts.”beautiful curvy hips.”very provocative service😘😘😘, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise😍😍😍😍❤️ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  35. wonderspa:
    🌺welcome to wonder spa☎️416-5000-800,L6a4H8,open10 to10.open long weekend ,Ensuit shower available 🍅beautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone🍅long hair new Lily is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch really popular 🌹long hair Vietnamese Amy friendly open mind,everything she can do ,have happy weekend🔥🔥
  36. SL East Spa:
    💆‍♀💖Friday Happy Happy!!!💖 Ultimate destination for Asian massages🎉 Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville ✨ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea — 🆕36D Flora, Eva, Coco, JPN Yui, Happy, Cindy, Jasmine& Doris — pamper yourself🎁🍁 Ring us 📞647-695-6354 or text us 📱647-578-8169✨ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill 💰Where Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits🙌
  37. Golden Flower Spa:
  38. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  39. Pink Flower Spa:
  40. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️( 647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️( 437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥💋Limited Time Special Promotion🔥💋 ✅💦30 Minutes Nude Mass
  41. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at 𝗔𝗟𝗜𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟮𝟵𝟴-𝟬𝟴𝟵𝟴. Alice spa has 3 very hot girls today. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. ASHLEY is a beautiful slim Korean student, snow white skin, 5'2, 100 Lbs, natural
  42. HollywoodSpa:
    Friday at 🎭𝗛𝗢𝗟𝗟𝗬𝗪𝗢𝗢𝗗 𝗦𝗣𝗔🎭, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: MIMI & TRACY. ☎416-222-5554☎ MIMI is a slim Chinese spinner hottie with a great ass, great body slide & liberal services. TRACY is a slim, taller & pretty lady, very friendly with an extensive menu. When you visit 🎭Hollywood Spa🎭, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳 : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5’4” with C Cups.
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️: LINA & CINDY. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best!
  45. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: ELLA, LUNA, SASHA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5’1” with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SASHA is Indian, C Cup, 5'2"
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25’s with curve body and young student Taiwanese 25’s slime open mind, young flirty Tina 30’s with sexy body open mind and sweet GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : Friday Schedule ❤️❤️ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , 😍😍Porn Service 🩷🩷Elena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and 🍑🍑ASS, 💋💋Yuki 24, Korean Slim , 😈bbbj , DFk 🔥Duo 🔥,☎️ 6475318288
  48. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Aad,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry 🏠address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👅👅👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵
  49. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . 🏠 2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 👅👅🦵🦵🈵🈵👄👄
  50. Red_Pearl_Spa:
    💋4385 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 5 🔺💋💋🔴Friday, 💞💋 Kelly, 💖today for an amazing treatment... 5'5", long light brown hair, at least C's...💋☎️ 647 352-1588☎️
Back
Top