Chat Does my favourite MPA like me or not???

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Why So serious ? Why Not so Serious? Decisions. No Decisions?
Confused. Not confused?
Retarded. Not Retarded Thread?
Fantasy. Reality?
Preference. Objective. Confirmation Bias?

Balls. No Balls? :)

I was going to just let this thread die out but since you posted, I'll share the below message for a little bit and will remove later on. Sweetie would have sent this as soon as she got home that night. She never does this and would rarely say something like "thinking about you already...". Fantasy? I really don't know now. I thought it might have been too based on feedback from others but like I said, it suddenly feels more real now. We went on to have even more sweet texts that evening till this day which I won't share as they are a bit too personal.

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Great advice, thatโ€™s so true, all of us know that the lady does see many other men, but jealousy is kept at bay cause in the time you are with the lady, I donโ€™t โ€œseeโ€ any other guys.
But the mental image or the realization in your friends example, that he was not even 1% more special has such a effect on a mans emotion.
Menโ€™s physical needs are easily met, itโ€™s the emotional ones that carry 10x the impact.

Hangdai, your post recently resurfaced so I started to read some of it again. Your last point is so true!
 
When you have 2 desperately โ€œemotionally lonelyโ€ people they fill a void for one another. Hence the โ€œconnectionโ€ and mutually beneficial arrangement. The โ€œneedโ€ comes first and then the vetting of other attributes and factors comes after. Trading off other attributes based on each other strengths/weaknesses. If you had a a better opportunity with another woman who met all your preferences and better than sweetie who would you choose? Duh. Trading up.

In HangDoggy case it wasnโ€™t reciprocal. He admits this. He wanted to โ€œbelieveโ€. He โ€œprojectedโ€ that the paid โ€œexclusive accessโ€ arrangement was an entry point and conscious/subconscious hope that it may lead to something more than just sex. Men in general have a tendency to think sharing of intimate thoughts with a female equates to โ€œshe likes me.โ€ See this all the time. Why they donโ€™t do it with other guy friends because itโ€™s showing vulnerability and weakness. Despite him being a veteran of this rodeo.

Itโ€™s acutely clear Hangdoggy is weak and vulnerable. To make up for it he seeks physical sex to simulate and fill his empty emotional connection vacuum.

I find it amusing that you feel need to convince everyone, your honey sincerely really likes you. Text Words alone are meaningless . Its action and true sacrifice under trying times is the indicator in a true strong relationship. If anyone been in a real relationships before should know this. Being there for each through the good and bad times. So far neither of you have anything material to lose. Except emotional withdrawal symptoms.

Who has more to lose and gain ? If the relationship sours or goes well? I guess it depends on what you value the most vis a vis other variables ?

You need to convince yourself. And grow a pair. Both of you need To Raise the stakes. โ€œItโ€™s puppy loveโ€ stage. Or just continue the fantasy. Whatever floats your boat.

I get the sense you are relationship inexperienced and immature despite being so called married and done the โ€œrodeoโ€ before. And at your late stage in life you discovered the need And importance for emotional connection. Or maybe you made poor decisions in your significant others past and present. Or maybe you made desperate decisions cause you had no better choices vis a vis being alone and single.

As I said before history repeats itself just different cast of characters in this hobby .
 
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Here is a little test . Tell her you got laid off due to workforce revitalization (too old and expensive) and you canโ€™t see her at the Rub n Tug shop anymore. And you can only see her at the park bench and hold hands cause you love being with her. She has a wise soul and deep personality.

Send us her text 1 year from now date stamped.

Nov 10, 2019

Hi Honey, Sorry Happy Belated Birthday. I miss you and think about you. I pray every nite until you find a good job so you can visit me like the good old days. I believe in you baby !!! LoL
 
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Here is a little test . Tell her you got laid off due to workforce revitalization (too old and expensive) and you canโ€™t see her at the Rub n Tug shop anymore. And you can only see her at the park bench and hold hands cause you love being with her. She has a wise soul and deep personality.

Send us her text 1 year from now date stamped.

Nov 10, 2019

Hi Honey, Sorry Happy Belated Birthday. I miss you and think about you. I pray every nite until you find a good job so you can visit me like the good old days. I believe in you baby !!! LoL

You gave her too much credit. My guess is the actual text will look like this: "Come by on Wednesday, we are not busy".
 
You donโ€™t believe he can beat the odds? A diamond in the rough? LoL

You gave her too much credit. My guess is the actual text will look like this: "Come by on Wednesday, we are not busy".
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I'm not a betting man, but even if I was, I wouldn't bet on this gelding.
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The gelding thinks itโ€™s highly promising after yesterdayโ€™s visit and fup text by her? We should create a Hobbyist MPAs relationship sustainability betting pool. LoL. What do you think the betting odds that the relationship survives in a year 1, 2, 3, 4 beyond ?

Or the probabilities better buying the Princess Margaret Hospital Lottery ticket and win a 2 million home ?
 
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I think its weird how you call her sweetie and honey all the time. Posting her texts is weird too and even weirder that you think they prove something because girls who know guys like the lovey dovey talk will give it to them and there are girls who have said way more sweet things before they cut a guy off or run off with his life savings. If you think she is different good for you but posting texts only proves you have bad judgment.
 
Wow, so much hate. Alright, since the message is loud and clear, I will succumb to the collective wisdom from you more experienced hobbyists. Some have been more considerate and understanding in their advice, both on this thread as well as in PMs. Others not so much but the underlying message is consistent. These girls are ho's and should be treated as such and under no circumstances, should we allow ourselves to get emotionally attached.

It will be tough but I will see my sweetie for the last time next week. I will simply explain to her that there is no future for us. From what you guys are saying, she will probably care less anyways, other than losing my business. After that, I will go cold turkey with her. I may even take an extended break from this hobby until I can resume with a clear mind.

@Leviathan - yes, your language can be harsh at times but at least you take the time to write meaningful posts and in reading between the lines, I think you actually "get it" and I'm pretty sure you know which guys have no clue. For that, I am thankful. I may be wrong but I would like to think that, at the end of the day, you mean well.
 
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How cow, kl_funguy! It took you 9 pages to reach a conclusion. And it's uncertain if it's even final. How do you even wake up in the morning?
 
Dude you are on a public forum. You should welcome the diversity of passionate voices โ€œgood or badโ€ with no emotion and filter out whatโ€™s acceptable and useful for you. Yes even ridiculing. Itโ€™s called freedom of speech in a democratic society. Itโ€™s not inciting hate or violence from legal standpoint. Itโ€™s called a discussion and commentary. Itโ€™s only when you hear a wide spectrum of views you can make an informed decision. The โ€œtensionโ€ created from diverse and differing opinions produces the best decisioning outcome. I suggest you delete the thread or disengage. History shows restrictions in free speech leads to totalitarianism and group think.

If sweetie brings an iota of joy in your life then cherish it. You need to judge her at the individual level knowing full well of the risks and based on your own rules of engagement. Itโ€™s the cunning and โ€œslow playโ€ woman or man which are the most dangerous. Master con artist and in psychology. You are an easy read my spidey sense tells me. This is an extreme example but how do you think very bright professionals get scammed by con artist ? Do you recall Bernie Madoff for 30 years scammed friends and family and the Uber Rich?

Does sweety have ulterior motives or good intent ? Nobody fucking knows. Most probably had bad experiences. The ones who had great and successful experiences probably are not on here or unwilling to admit it. Itโ€™s up to you to go through the derisking process.

This is harmless childโ€™s play and nothing compared to the hate and veiled physical threats received from the so called esteem veteran members here. Just ask Hangdoggy, Ursula and Lord Krayjee the Thai pimp wannabe and loyal disciples ?LoL

Wow, so much hate. Alright, since the message is loud and clear, I will succumb to the collective wisdom from you more experienced hobbyists. Some have been more considerate and understanding in their advice, both on this thread as well as in PMs. Others not so much but the underlying message is consistent. These girls are ho's and should be treated as such and under no circumstances, should we allow ourselves to get emotionally attached.

It will be tough but I will see my sweetie for the last time next week. I will simply explain to her that there is no future for us. From what you guys are saying, she will probably care less anyways, other than losing my business. After that, I will go cold turkey with her. I may even take an extended break from this hobby until I can resume with a clear mind.

@Leviathan - yes, your language can be harsh at times but at least you take the time to write meaningful posts and in reading between the lines, I think you actually "get it" and I'm pretty sure you know which guys have no clue. For that, I am thankful. I may be wrong but I would like to think that, at the end of the day, you mean well.
 
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And the advice is free!

Some guys pay dearly for therapy, so much time and money wasted. Just come on here.
Great way to save money.

I think Ursus would approve if he was here??
 
Please, don't delete this thread. I think it's useful for others in the future.

And the advice is free!

Some guys pay dearly for therapy, so much time and money wasted. Just come on here.
Great way to save money.

I think Ursus would approve if he was here??

You think?

Nah.. Ursus cannot be everywhere. Maybe just his imagination.
Although we should doubt that too, he doesnโ€™t like โ€œlieingโ€ no matter what

Lol
 
Wow, so much hate. Alright, since the message is loud and clear, I will succumb to the collective wisdom from you more experienced hobbyists. Some have been more considerate and understanding in their advice, both on this thread as well as in PMs. Others not so much but the underlying message is consistent. These girls are ho's and should be treated as such and under no circumstances, should we allow ourselves to get emotionally attached.

It will be tough but I will see my sweetie for the last time next week. I will simply explain to her that there is no future for us. From what you guys are saying, she will probably care less anyways, other than losing my business. After that, I will go cold turkey with her. I may even take an extended break from this hobby until I can resume with a clear mind.

@Leviathan - yes, your language can be harsh at times but at least you take the time to write meaningful posts and in reading between the lines, I think you actually "get it" and I'm pretty sure you know which guys have no clue. For that, I am thankful. I may be wrong but I would like to think that, at the end of the day, you mean well.

It doesn't appear that anyone on here is a trained psychologist or psychotherapist, so if you were looking for Rogerian therapy, this is not the correct place. Instead, you received the honest opinions of others who feel pity for you and your situation. If we were douches (pun intended) all the time, our advice would head you down the path of getting fleeced for everything you have. Wake up, man.
 
Wow, so much hate. Alright, since the message is loud and clear, I will succumb to the collective wisdom from you more experienced hobbyists. Some have been more considerate and understanding in their advice, both on this thread as well as in PMs. Others not so much but the underlying message is consistent. These girls are ho's and should be treated as such and under no circumstances, should we allow ourselves to get emotionally attached.

It will be tough but I will see my sweetie for the last time next week. I will simply explain to her that there is no future for us. From what you guys are saying, she will probably care less anyways, other than losing my business. After that, I will go cold turkey with her. I may even take an extended break from this hobby until I can resume with a clear mind.

@Leviathan - yes, your language can be harsh at times but at least you take the time to write meaningful posts and in reading between the lines, I think you actually "get it" and I'm pretty sure you know which guys have no clue. For that, I am thankful. I may be wrong but I would like to think that, at the end of the day, you mean well.

We are not saying that you should dump her. Well not all of us. Just enjoy your time in the spa, even enjoy the sweet texts. Life is short, happiness is an illusion but that doesn't make it less real. Just don't go down the rabbit hole and ruin your life. You can have yoir cake and eat it too.
 
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    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 3 beauties to choose from today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLAUDIA (11am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JOJO (12:30pm-9pm): is a busty JAPANESE girl, nice DD Cup boobs
  32. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธSummer Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  33. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Sophia & Cindy. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  34. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Fiona. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy
  35. dolly nuru:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’– If you are in around Montreal, come see me for amazing NURU massage - Dolly Nuru - Montreal - 4379807330 - 650Rue Notre-Dame, Repentigny, QC J6A 2W3 ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’–
  36. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 3 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and sexy Coco,,cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  37. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  38. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 11 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, SABHA, KIRAN, MONIKA, ANNA, MEGAN, SARIKA, NUR ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  39. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approach
  40. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Elena Vietnamese Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Cici Cute Vietnamese Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  41. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  42. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนSexy Monica, RMT Rose and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  43. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Yoyo and Mimi are at work today. They are young, pretty, cute, good at massage and fun.
  44. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Sexy Busty Girl Faye, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌFAYE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  45. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Happy Sunday,ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…, friendly nice girl Sunny providing deep tissue to relax oil message back walking hot stone and nice body slide,๐Ÿ…big big boob sexy face Joey is very good looking,amazing massage,open maid,really popular girl,You can get comfortable warm time,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿงจ
  46. Spa in Markham:
  47. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Sunday May 11, 2025, our attendants will be Ada โค, Christina ๐Ÿฅณ, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Ivy ๐Ÿคฉ and Lucy โค. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  48. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  49. Pink Flower Spa:
  50. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Saturday๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Cici, Yoyo, Amber, Juliet, GFE Eva,Echo,๐Ÿ†•Julia, Akino & Jennyโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - Your Black Friday Bliss is Here!๐Ÿ™Œ
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