First timer with a TON of questions...

[nervousguy]

Here's the deal. I haven't had sex in over a year and I'd like for a pretty girl to get me off instead of my hand. I've never been to a massage parlor or done anything like it before. I want to be educated before going, because even though I'll be very nervous, I don't want to be a bumbling idiot when I get there. Onto my questions...

1) How legal is this? I used to think it was 100% illegal but I google searched "massage parlor kitchener" (I live in the KW area) and came across "Phoenix Adult Massage Spa". That name seems pretty obvious to what it is so I figured it would've been busted by now if this was illegal...right? Is there any chance of a raid or something happening? If these establishments are legal, what certain activities are legal and what are not?
2) If I get a 30 minute massage, how long is the actual massage and how long is the handjob/extras? Does anyone actually care about the massage? Cuz I'm there for the sexual release, not the massage.
3) What is the difference between 30 mins and 60 mins? By this I mean let's say the handjob takes 10 minutes, does this mean the massage takes 20 mins and 50 mins?
4) How does the pricing work? From what I gather there is a "door fee" which goes to the owner of the spa, then the "service fee" which goes to the girl? Does the service fee include the handjob? And do I need to tip as well or is tipping and service fee the same thing?
5) How much is the average price for a handjob? What about other services?
6) How exactly should I go about asking for more? Do I need to use code words or can I just ask "do you give blowjobs?"
7) What if I finish before my time is up? Tough luck and I just leave?
8) Is it common to be able to touch her body, boobs, and ass? If she has the right boobs I definitely wouldn't mind squeezing them all night long!
9) Is it common to be able to kiss them? If so is it usually just a quick peck on the lips kinda thing or can I make out with her?
10) Do most people pay in cash?

Lastly...and this might be my most important question...what is the step by step of exactly how it'll go down. Is it 1) Enter spa and say "hi I'm here for a 30 min massage". 2) Get shown a lineup of girls for me to choose. "I'll take Claire!". 3) Claire starts the massage and eventually starts jerking me off? 4) Do I ask her if there are extras and how much? 5) I cum. 6) I pay. 7) I leave and hope nobody I know sees me.

 

[Farm Gate]

Here's the deal. I haven't had sex in over a year and I'd like for a pretty girl to get me off instead of my hand. I've never been to a massage parlor or done anything like it before. I want to be educated before going, because even though I'll be very nervous, I don't want to be a bumbling idiot when I get there. Onto my questions...

1) How legal is this? I used to think it was 100% illegal but I google searched "massage parlor kitchener" (I live in the KW area) and came across "Phoenix Adult Massage Spa". That name seems pretty obvious to what it is so I figured it would've been busted by now if this was illegal...right? Is there any chance of a raid or something happening? If these establishments are legal, what certain activities are legal and what are not?
2) If I get a 30 minute massage, how long is the actual massage and how long is the handjob/extras? Does anyone actually care about the massage? Cuz I'm there for the sexual release, not the massage.
3) What is the difference between 30 mins and 60 mins? By this I mean let's say the handjob takes 10 minutes, does this mean the massage takes 20 mins and 50 mins?
4) How does the pricing work? From what I gather there is a "door fee" which goes to the owner of the spa, then the "service fee" which goes to the girl? Does the service fee include the handjob? And do I need to tip as well or is tipping and service fee the same thing?
5) How much is the average price for a handjob? What about other services?
6) How exactly should I go about asking for more? Do I need to use code words or can I just ask "do you give blowjobs?"
7) What if I finish before my time is up? Tough luck and I just leave?
8) Is it common to be able to touch her body, boobs, and ass? If she has the right boobs I definitely wouldn't mind squeezing them all night long!
9) Is it common to be able to kiss them? If so is it usually just a quick peck on the lips kinda thing or can I make out with her?
10) Do most people pay in cash?

Lastly...and this might be my most important question...what is the step by step of exactly how it'll go down. Is it 1) Enter spa and say "hi I'm here for a 30 min massage". 2) Get shown a lineup of girls for me to choose. "I'll take Claire!". 3) Claire starts the massage and eventually starts jerking me off? 4) Do I ask her if there are extras and how much? 5) I cum. 6) I pay. 7) I leave and hope nobody I know sees me.

You sure u aint LE?

 

[Pay2Play]

You need to answer these questions for yourself. It takes years to learn all the ins and outs.

 

[Nanziqi]

You need to answer these questions for yourself. It takes years to learn all the ins and outs.

Very good answer

 

[dtm1973]

1) How legal is this? I used to think it was 100% illegal but I google searched "massage parlor kitchener" (I live in the KW area) and came across "Phoenix Adult Massage Spa". That name seems pretty obvious to what it is so I figured it would've been busted by now if this was illegal...right? Is there any chance of a raid or something happening? If these establishments are legal, what certain activities are legal and what are not?
MPs are legal, banging for money is illegal - but since it is just the two of you, who is to know? Not like a spa is going to keep a full time LE on payroll to catch clients paying for sex

2) If I get a 30 minute massage, how long is the actual massage and how long is the handjob/extras? Does anyone actually care about the massage? Cuz I'm there for the sexual release, not the massage.
dont kid yourself - especially on first time - the massage will relax you a bit before you get to the good stuff - nothing like worrying about everything and getting used to the lady and then worrying about getting hard and popping

3) What is the difference between 30 mins and 60 mins? By this I mean let's say the handjob takes 10 minutes, does this mean the massage takes 20 mins and 50 mins?
time spent on massage and "extras" I usually go for 45min

4) How does the pricing work? From what I gather there is a "door fee" which goes to the owner of the spa, then the "service fee" which goes to the girl? Does the service fee include the handjob? And do I need to tip as well or is tipping and service fee the same thing?
Door fee - to the building. Service fee may be payable to the building (then it goes to the girl), or may be pay direct. Service fee varies in NR/BS/Nekked/Etc and includes hand job. Extras are on top of that

5) How much is the average price for a handjob? What about other services?
Refer to the establishments fees for service

6) How exactly should I go about asking for more? Do I need to use code words or can I just ask "do you give blowjobs?"
Ask them for a body slide, and at some point ask them if they are interested in doing something more

7) What if I finish before my time is up? Tough luck and I just leave?
Some may offer a supplimental massage, some a shower scrub, but to me if my goal is to fuck 'n nut, then why hang around?

8) Is it common to be able to touch her body, boobs, and ass? If she has the right boobs I definitely wouldn't mind squeezing them all night long!
YMMV - ask the girl before slappin dem titties or shoving fingers up her ass - ask ... ask ... ask ...

9) Is it common to be able to kiss them? If so is it usually just a quick peck on the lips kinda thing or can I make out with her?
YMMV - ask

10) Do most people pay in cash?
Dunno any MPA that carries around a debit machine, nor are so mentally inept to accept personal cheques - cash only

Lastly...and this might be my most important question...what is the step by step of exactly how it'll go down. Is it 1) Enter spa and say "hi I'm here for a 30 min massage". 2) Get shown a lineup of girls for me to choose. "I'll take Claire!". 3) Claire starts the massage and eventually starts jerking me off? 4) Do I ask her if there are extras and how much? 5) I cum. 6) I pay. 7) I leave and hope nobody I know sees me.
1) yes or make an appt to skip the next part. 2) yes, 3) yes, 4) yes if she does not offer, 5) yes, 6) yes, or maybe before, 7) yes, but usually nobody will care because most MPs are open 7 days a week

 

[dtm1973]

oh, and be fully prepared to hear "no extras" or "maybe next time" Nothin worse than going in thinking you are gonna get greek and find out it aint even on the menu

go in expecting a good hand job - anything else is bonus and you wont be disappointed
and for christs sake if she offers, take it - last thing you want to do is negotiate or decline - some girls WANT the extra cash and will be disappointed when you decline. They get more pissed when you try to negotiate

 

[Leviathan]

Allow me to direct you to our resident sexperts Ursus, Asian Gilf SME and LuvAsian, BBW Bbbjcim SME.

They will guide you through the learning curve ? LoL


Full disclosure: both have voices in their head syndrome. But well informed in their respective subject matter expertise. LoL LoL

Lord Kray

 

[mvdouche]

6) How exactly should I go about asking for more? Do I need to use code words or can I just ask "do you give blowjobs?"

No, you don't do this. These girls may be sex workers but they're not robots, and if you want to go beyond the "MP limits" then the rules of seduction still apply even though you're paying them. Even with SP's there's still an element of rapport building, meaning playing it smoothly instead of barking out commands will make the difference between the girl treating you mechanically versus more of a GFE / cat in heat.

If you took a regular girl home from a bar or dating app and had her on the couch making out, you wouldn't say "do you give blowjobs"? You'd find some roundabout way to build up to that so its a natural progression. With MPA's, that progression is obviously accelerated, but it still exists.

 

[cheasley2810]

No, you don't do this. These girls may be sex workers but they're not robots, and if you want to go beyond the "MP limits" then the rules of seduction still apply even though you're paying them. Even with SP's there's still an element of seduction - meaning playing it smoothly and going with the flow will get you further than barking out commands. It can make the difference between a mechanical act and the girl going through the motions versus more of a GFE.

If you took a girl home from a bar or dating app and had her on the couch making out, you wouldn't say "do you give blowjobs"? You'd find some roundabout way to build up to that so its a natural progression. With MPA's, that progression is obviously accelerated, but it still exists.

Well said!

 

[nervousguy]

So after I made this thread my desire to want to go to a massage parlor went down a bit (probably because my nerves got the best of me). But then for the last couple days I couldn't stop thinking about it again. I'm definitely going to try it out, I have to. I'm not currently dating anyone so I'm not cheating, and I kind of feel like if I don't give this a try at least once in my life I will regret it on my deathbed. I've been browsing this forum a ton but wanted some clarification on a few things.

On some spa websites in the "rates" section I see the term "all inclusive" stated. For example at Pure it costs $150 for 40 mins all inclusive. But what exactly is included? I'm assuming the massage and HJ, but anything else is extra correct? And if all I want is a HJ, is it customary to still tip on top of the $150?

What exactly is a "nude reverse"? Is it just me giving the girl a massage as she's lying on the table? I don't quite understand the allure of me paying to massage someone else...maybe I'm missing something lol

In reading MPA reviews, I've often encountered the term GFE (girlfriend experience) when describing the session. But what dos that entail? She likes making out and chatting? Does it have anything to do with whether FS is given? FWIW, I actually don't want FS...not for my first time anyways.

In reviews I also see the term "within normal MPA limits". What does that mean?

And finally, I have a question for all you short men out there. I see that the MPA's height is often listed on their profile. Have you guys been with an MPA that was taller than you? If so, was it weird for you or the girl? I'm only 5'6 so I'm pretty short.

 

[cupcrazy]

The answer to some of your questions can be found on google.

 

[Nrsytd]

"All inclusive"
Room fee+Attendant fee. Which includes, massage, bodyslide (BS), nude reverse (NR) and Happy Ending (HE).
NR is basically a feel free to explore her body. Kitty play, boob play, ass play etc..
Your interpretation of GFE is correct. Alot of girls say that but don't really come through.
MPA limits are BS and He. Anything above that (BJ and FS) should be tipped accordingly ($50-$100). Depending on the girl.
Height? That means nothing really. Your not walking down the street with her in her heels at 6'4 and you at 5'6.
When you see an MP and you REALLY enjoyed yourself and will definitely come back, feel free to tip. If it sucked, just walk.
Be squeaky clean, polite and a bit chatty at first, and all will be fine.
Go!

 

[FredNurks]

Just go see Sweet Baby Jamie, explain your situation, and hold on for the ride.

 

[luvnewpussy]

So after I made this thread my desire to want to go to a massage parlor went down a bit (probably because my nerves got the best of me). But then for the last couple days I couldn't stop thinking about it again. I'm definitely going to try it out, I have to. I'm not currently dating anyone so I'm not cheating, and I kind of feel like if I don't give this a try at least once in my life I will regret it on my deathbed. I've been browsing this forum a ton but wanted some clarification on a few things.

On some spa websites in the "rates" section I see the term "all inclusive" stated. For example at Pure it costs $150 for 40 mins all inclusive. But what exactly is included? I'm assuming the massage and HJ, but anything else is extra correct? And if all I want is a HJ, is it customary to still tip on top of the $150?

What exactly is a "nude reverse"? Is it just me giving the girl a massage as she's lying on the table? I don't quite understand the allure of me paying to massage someone else...maybe I'm missing something lol

In reading MPA reviews, I've often encountered the term GFE (girlfriend experience) when describing the session. But what dos that entail? She likes making out and chatting? Does it have anything to do with whether FS is given? FWIW, I actually don't want FS...not for my first time anyways.

In reviews I also see the term "within normal MPA limits". What does that mean?

And finally, I have a question for all you short men out there. I see that the MPA's height is often listed on their profile. Have you guys been with an MPA that was taller than you? If so, was it weird for you or the girl? I'm only 5'6 so I'm pretty short.

Bro..your wayyyyy to nervous...go smoke a joint ..take a shot of whiskey....take a editable and take the edge off..all your question are getting me nervous. Your overthinking it.

Here..is The newbie MPA 5 step starter kit.

1.Withdrawal 300 cash
2.Show up and pick a girl
3. Go in tell them you have 300 and you want everything.
4. Lay back and let it happen.
5. REPORT BACK

 

[Flatulent Fox]

What exactly is a "nude reverse"? Is it just me giving the girl a massage as she's lying on the table? I don't quite understand the allure of me paying to massage someone else...maybe I'm missing something lol

Massaging the girl can make her more receptive to DATY, and if you're good at DATY it can make her more receptive to extras. That's why I do it.

 

[IronBoss]

The best way to learn is hands on experience.

 

[cupcrazy]

Bro..your wayyyyy to nervous...go smoke a joint ..take a shot of whiskey....take a editable and take the edge off..all your question are getting me nervous. Your overthinking it.

Here..is The newbie MPA 5 step starter kit.

1.Withdrawal 300 cash
2.Show up and pick a girl
3. Go in tell them you have 300 and you want everything.
4. Lay back and let it happen.
5. REPORT BACK

don't tell her you have $300. start the tips low and work you way up otherwise she would go for all of your $300. Don't bring any debit or credit card to prevent to fall into temptation. Try to avoid pay up front to avoid disappointment. it doesn't happen often just in case.

 

[nervousguy]

"All inclusive"
Room fee+Attendant fee. Which includes, massage, bodyslide (BS), nude reverse (NR) and Happy Ending (HE).
NR is basically a feel free to explore her body. Kitty play, boob play, ass play etc..
Your interpretation of GFE is correct. Alot of girls say that but don't really come through.
MPA limits are BS and He. Anything above that (BJ and FS) should be tipped accordingly ($50-$100). Depending on the girl.
Height? That means nothing really. Your not walking down the street with her in her heels at 6'4 and you at 5'6.
When you see an MP and you REALLY enjoyed yourself and will definitely come back, feel free to tip. If it sucked, just walk.
Be squeaky clean, polite and a bit chatty at first, and all will be fine.
Go!

Thanks!

I would definitely like to explore her body! But is it generally more "massage" like she's actually lying on the table and i'm massaging her all over? Or more where we're both standing/sitting and touching each other's bodies? If it's the former, I better brush up on my massaging skills!

Yeah I figured the height thing wouldn't really matter. But I've had my eye on a couple MPA's listed in the 5'8-5'9 range and I've never actually been with (or dated) a girl that was taller than me before so I wasn't sure if me being shorter would make it slightly uncomfortable. Though now that I think about it, I'm sure these girls have seen everything and more already.

 

[nervousguy]

Bro..your wayyyyy to nervous...go smoke a joint ..take a shot of whiskey....take a editable and take the edge off..all your question are getting me nervous. Your overthinking it.

Here..is The newbie MPA 5 step starter kit.

1.Withdrawal 300 cash
2.Show up and pick a girl
3. Go in tell them you have 300 and you want everything.
4. Lay back and let it happen.
5. REPORT BACK

Yep, hence my name. Although I think smoking or drinking beforehand would just make it worse lol.
I think 300 is too much to spend. Plus I'm not looking for FS. From what I gather if I wanted extras like a BJ then I'm looking at ~$200 all-in at places like Premier. And less if it's at asian places, though I'm actually not really into asian girls.

 

[nervousguy]

Massaging the girl can make her more receptive to DATY, and if you're good at DATY it can make her more receptive to extras. That's why I do it.

It never really crossed my mind to perform DATY. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE eating out a girl. I once had a gf who tasted absolutely heavenly and I enjoyed every second of eating her out. However doing it on an MPA seems risky to me.