I am out

[sinistarglobal]

As the philosopher J cole stated "don't save her. She don't want to be saved" tells us a lot.

 

[peaceofmind]

The three roads to ruin are gambling golf and women. Gambling being the quickest. Golf the surest and women the most pleasurable

I think I'm super glad that the latter is my weakness. The first two, not so much (yet)

 

[sinistarglobal]

"I couldn't do it, she could have been my daughter standing there. Just felt incredibly sorry all of a sudden"

Not sure I understand where you are coming from and I have to ask ~ Is the upsetting factor she could have been your daughter?

You must know there are many men on here in their 60s, 70s and beyond that likely have daughters in their late 30s, 40s and 50s.
Is 30s or 40s acceptable for you? What is the cutoff? Also, every girl/woman you've had sexual pleasure with for money is in fact somebody's daughter.

Reality is 20 something females are designed to make your cock hard and your brain mush so you will inject them with semen and propagate the species - that, my friend, is the prime directive.

Don't be so hard (no pun intended) on yourself - you are helping her financially and she is providing you with pleasure without the expense of child rearing! If you feel she was acting out of desperation or is being manipulated into providing sexual services, well, that is a whole different story!

I wish you the best in whatever you decide for your future habits but I don't think you should consider a sex workers age as long as they are in compliance with legally sanctioned norms!

100 percent. he has got it....

 

[funliness]

Middle age has me feeling this too. When they are too young (still in college or uni.) it feels unnatural. At this stage I prefer a woman rather than a girl

 

[Wu-Tang-Lan]

The three roads to ruin are gambling golf and women. Gambling being the quickest. Golf the surest and women the most pleasurable

The older I get, golf is slowly pushing women out of first..

 

[Wu-Tang-Lan]

Middle age has me feeling this too. When they are too young (still in college or uni.) it feels unnatural. At this stage I prefer a woman rather than a girl

Yeah, I have a daughter in her mid twenties, creepy

 

[Wu-Tang-Lan]

As the philosopher J cole stated "don't save her. She don't want to be saved" tells us a lot.

Yeah, in some cases most likely true

 

[Wu-Tang-Lan]

It’s the truth. Someone on another thread said “this hobby is like heroine, except with pussy and tits” and it’s true.

Thank god it's not like cocaine, don't need that 80's nightmare all over again

 

[Wu-Tang-Lan]

I’m generally pretty happy with things as they stand. I don’t need to see anyone and oftentimes I just don’t feel like visiting anyone and I don’t. Last I checked our money doesn’t expire… yet. Whether I’m in the mood for a good massage or something more, I just do it and seldom have any regrets.

No regrets, only way to navigate thos industry my opinion

 

[not impressed]

I just hope it was not the same young girl I talked her out of this business about 2 months ago. She's about 5' tall around 95 lbs with glasses on. I told her this business is like a trap, once you got in, very hard to get out cuz money is so easy and won't be able to work regular jobs any more. I told her to think it over seriously before she comes back to work the following Monday. She came over for interview Saturday afternoon, tried out 2 customers and made 350. She sent me a message Sunday night saying she couldn't do this job and quit. I was so happy for her after that. She told me she only wanted to do massage and no happy ending. So I doubt that it was her. She was a 3 rd yr university student .

Post #3757 East Beaver thread.

From a man that has thrown many young girls to the wolves, you should be ashamed of yourself.. creep is about right

 

[Sajam Enjoyer]

Thankfully, I don't like seeing young MPAs or SWs so I don't have to feel that kind of guilt. Maybe its because I'm also young (relative to other hobbyists) and it would be too close to my civilian life. Also the older ladies have been in the game for a while and I think they have to reconciled most of their demons and have their coping mechanisms in place.

Unfortunately, it can do exactly the same for our lady friends.

I was talking to a boss years ago about one of her most popular attendants and she told me she had quit and moved on from the industry because she wanted to focus on finding a guy who was looking for a real commitment and realized a quality one wouldn't be with any of us pervs. She obviously was also looking to bury her skeletons and move on. She did actually quit...for a year or two. Now she's been back at it for a few years.

It was a little shocking to me find that there are some MPAs, especially the asian ones, are either open to or actively searching for a potential man to settle with through their clients. I had at least 5 regulars would see (who i don't see anymore) I and every time we chat, the idea of her marrying me comes up 3-4 times per conversation. At the start I assumed it was just the regular greasing of the wheel, flirting to get more tips. Maybe some of it was but the fact that it kept happening with MPAs I would regularly see, made me think they were serious.
There was one I saw for like a year for strictly massage, no HE or anything and she would keep fantasizing about me and her getting married and going shopping

 

[Sybarite]

There are many older providers who are truly amazing due to experience. Those women are typically much more at peace with their chosen profession and it shows in the vibes. In that instance you don't need to worry about anyone being coerced or exploited... it's a win / win scenario for both parties.

Experimenting with new girls has become more expensive and hit and miss than ever, in addition to the depressing situation the OP found himself in. There's something to be said for sticking with a handful of tried and true fave veteran girls, rather than conducting an endless and futile search for the perfect woman.

 

[tasteyou69]

There are many older providers who are truly amazing due to experience. Those women are typically much more at peace with their chosen profession and it shows in the vibes. In that instance you don't need to worry about anyone being coerced or exploited... it's a win / win scenario for both parties.

Experimenting with new girls has become more expensive and hit and miss than ever, in addition to the depressing situation the OP found himself in. There's something to be said for sticking with a handful of tried and true fave veteran girls, rather than conducting an endless and futile search for the perfect woman

RIGHT ON. I am older now but have always preferred the well matured providers and am more comfortable repeating with known quantities.. Better service, more reliable , no pimps, no periods, more affordable , far fewer life issues and they are often very comfortable with their occupation. Furthermore they are happy to see me and are appreciative of my frequent repeats. Seeing as I suffer from Yellow Fever it really helps that Asian ladies age well and could often pass for 10-15 years younger than they are well into there 50's and more.

 

[luvdafurburger]

Thankfully, I don't like seeing young MPAs or SWs so I don't have to feel that kind of guilt. Maybe its because I'm also young (relative to other hobbyists) and it would be too close to my civilian life. Also the older ladies have been in the game for a while and I think they have to reconciled most of their demons and have their coping mechanisms in place.


It was a little shocking to me find that there are some MPAs, especially the asian ones, are either open to or actively searching for a potential man to settle with through their clients. I had at least 5 regulars would see (who i don't see anymore) I and every time we chat, the idea of her marrying me comes up 3-4 times per conversation. At the start I assumed it was just the regular greasing of the wheel, flirting to get more tips. Maybe some of it was but the fact that it kept happening with MPAs I would regularly see, made me think they were serious.
There was one I saw for like a year for strictly massage, no HE or anything and she would keep fantasizing about me and her getting married and going shopping

There was a Semi girl I used to see a number of years ago. Over time things went further and further to the point where we'd do CFS. Then after a few sessions of that she wanted BB.

No problem, I can control. But then I'd be ready to pull out and she'd be like "no I want inside".

I was like wtf no way I know where this is going. It creeped me out and I didn't see her again after that. Kind of feel bad about the situation.

 

[sinistarglobal]

There are many older providers who are truly amazing due to experience. Those women are typically much more at peace with their chosen profession and it shows in the vibes. In that instance you don't need to worry about anyone being coerced or exploited... it's a win / win scenario for both parties.

Experimenting with new girls has become more expensive and hit and miss than ever, in addition to the depressing situation the OP found himself in. There's something to be said for sticking with a handful of tried and true fave veteran girls, rather than conducting an endless and futile search for the perfect woman.ㅍㄷ교

Agree with this 100%. I have been doing this (intermittently) long enough to even see how the young one's who stay in the business settle into it really nicely and the vibe improves remarkably. Had an experience with a provider I had literally last seen 6 or 7 years prior. The service then was very meh. Now -- awesome. Our chat during the time explained why.

 

[sinistarglobal]

. Seeing as I suffer from Yellow Fever it really helps that Asian ladies age well and could often pass for 10-15 years younger than they are well into there 50's and more.

Shout out to this brother! I am the same. So bad is the fever that I have no interest in non asian. Some of these ladies pushing 50 still have absolutely rocking bodies!

 

[peaceofmind]

Shout out to this brother! I am the same. So bad is the fever that I have no interest in non asian. Some of these ladies pushing 50 still have absolutely rocking bodies!

Haha same here too. My interest is purely in Asian ladies. I don't know how they do it, and how the skin on their bodies doesn't seem to age (face sometimes shows it, but who really cares). They may lose or gain a bit of weight over time but they don't seem to suffer from stretch marks or cellulite. So many 40+ year olds have the bodies of 25 year olds. Hats off to them.

 

[TheWhiteShadow]

I have just spent the last 30 minutes reading this thread. It's good to see the topics like this can be discussed and for the most part it can be a civil discussion.
I too have also taken a significant break and while being away have surprisingly not miss this hobby as much as I thought I would. That's not to say that I'll never come back cuz as you can still see I do keep tabs on this forum to stay informed. But as of right now I do have one foot out the door.

 

[sy barite]

interesting discussion. Obviously, a lot of us have had or having this experience. Couple more thoughts....a few people here have mentioned age, and I have to acknowledged that's a big part of it for me. If I was still in the throes of the kind of lust that possessed me in younger days...I doubt I'd have the will to resist. Also, I didn't mean to suggest that I can tell when a woman is "unhappy" with her line of work. Like everything else, these things exist in degrees. I meant that I certainly would not knowingly stay with a woman who was feeling revulsion or desperation. Morality is tricky, and I don't mean to impose my interpretations on anyone else, but for me there is a world of difference between a woman who is taken advantage of because she wants to feed her kids and one claiming abuse because a Hollywood Producer wouldn't hire her for a 15 million payday unless she sucked him off.

 

[luvdafurburger]

interesting discussion. Obviously, a lot of us have had or having this experience. Couple more thoughts....a few people here have mentioned age, and I have to acknowledged that's a big part of it for me. If I was still in the throes of the kind of lust that possessed me in younger days...I doubt I'd have the will to resist. Also, I didn't mean to suggest that I can tell when a woman is "unhappy" with her line of work. Like everything else, these things exist in degrees. I meant that I certainly would not knowingly stay with a woman who was feeling revulsion or desperation. Morality is tricky, and I don't mean to impose my interpretations on anyone else, but for me there is a world of difference between a woman who is taken advantage of because she wants to feed her kids and one claiming abuse because a Hollywood Producer wouldn't hire her for a 15 million payday unless she sucked him off.

I agree there is a whole range of unhappiness in a job. Very very few people who are working in any field are going to say they enjoy 100% of their job. I always say it comes down to a percentage. If someone doesn't like 60% of their job I'd suggest they find something else they'd be happier with that has a lower percentage of dislikes.

Who doesn't have some degree of bullshit to deal with? Especially in an industry dealing with the public. Most of the public are idiots. A lot of ladies deal with a fair number of douchebags. We've seen clear examples of doucebaggery even just on here. So just because a girl seems to appear unhappy, it could just be because she's having a shitty day because of the people she dealt with just before you, not necessarily because she hates the industry and wants out, or is being forced into it.

I like to think, and I truly believe, most guys on here have some kind of code and conduct themselves like gentlemen. But there's always going to be a percentage of douchebags, can't change that unfortunately.

I might not agree with what a provider does with her money, but I don't think that's really my business. So if a girl is unhappy with her outcome from the industry, then that's on her. If they want Mercedes and Gucci bags it's their life. Some seem to be doing just fine though. I just had a SP who said she invests plenty in the stock market and is saving for a house. She's on her way home to see her family for a while. Hardly the life of a slave in my opinion. She can probably buy 100 Apple shares soon if I keep seeing her. She is there by choice and is free to leave... that's all that matters to me. There's really not much left to interpretation in most cases.

You have an impressive hobbyist resume. One of the most impressive resumes on here at least to me. There's shit you've done that are on my Not Likely to Ever Happen but Wish They Would Bucket List, specifically I'm referring to Far East escapades. Do you think that there are things you ran into overseas that are more likely exploitation? I guess I'm talking about bar girls for example. My understanding was that generally a lot were just like the ladies here, putting food on the table, and if they're smart planning for the future. Some not too though. They might have not made great choices in their past, and that may be the reason why they're in the industry, but again no one is forcing them.

I'd be interested hearing different perspectives if guys feel they ran into that. Personally I have never felt I ran in to any exploitation other than me being the sucker more times than I'd like to admit.