Massage Practitioners, How do I market?

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I am licensed in Ohio, which is quit strict...750 hours, state boards which is under the control of the Ohio Medical Board, they have controlled massage since 1916. Ohio does not reciprocate with any other state and does not recognize National Certification. The appication just to take the state board is extensive, you have to list your address and employer since the age of 18, etc. you get the idea.

But yet if you call yourself a massage practitioner, you have to do NOTHING, just put up your sign. They can not advertize as a massage therapist, but lets face it does the general public know the difference? We have invested 2 years of study, many thousands of dollars for all the education and training.

As you can tell it ticks me off. We have practitioners in the area that charge as low as $20.00 per hour.

I am asking do other states have the same regulations?
How do you deal with the practitioners?
Can you offer suggestions on how I can deal with this?
How do I respond to phone calls, saying I can get a massage for $20.00 why are you charging so much? I know your answer, explain all of your training, etc. but be honest, would you not try the cheaper price.

Thank you for letting me vent and I look forward to some enlightning response.
 
Massage Practitioners, How do I market?

George said:
How do I respond to phone calls, saying I can get a massage for $20.00 why are you charging so much? I know your answer, explain all of your training, etc. but be honest, would you not try the cheaper price.

I don't know about the other questions, but here, even though there is no tiered licensure, and you can't practice any type of massage without a license, some people still charge far less for massage. When somebody calls me and says "$65!, I can get a massage over (somewhere else) for $35! Why $65?" I just say: "Why? Because I'm very good." That's all, I don't have to explain, or talk them into it, they'll either work with me or not.

I used to bargain hunt, my first few massages were at the cheapest place I could find. Now, I look for the person who is going to do a great job.

Be honest, do you really want a practice full of bargain hunters? Or would you rather have the people you can get at your price- the people who recognize that you have additional skills that can help them?

Likely, the $20 "practitioners" aren't up to snuff, and have to discount heavily to get work. If they were highly skilled, (even without the certificate, there are some very gifted massage practitioners out there,) they could/would be charging more money.
 


In Ontario I am a registered Massage therapist, and the term massage therapist, massage therapy is copyrighted. We have people who can't pass the certification exams, or can't be bothered to take them, or take a weekend course and put up signs, calling themselves bodyworkers. We also have orthotherapists, who are a totally different breed, and again aren't regulated here, and often advertise they do massage therapy, not always though

There isn't a whole lot you can do. However, if someone is saying the do massage therapy, and they aren't registered, we can report them to our regulatory college, who can then investigate, and shut them down with steep fines, and prosecution under federal laws. If they walk the line carefullly, there is nothing that can be done, but one step over, and someone sees it, there can be repurcussions.

If you are concerned about it in your area, see if your board will do something in terms of title protection. THat will only work though if A)there is title protections and B) the practitioners are using said title.

As far as explaining why you charge so much, I like Breathe's suggestion, probably the simplest, and easiest . I explain to people how long my training was, what I do, and I know what to look for in terms of contraindications and safety. Can they say the same about someone else without the same level of training and certification? I often believe you get what you pay for.

I also ask, if said massage person is flying under the raidar, doing things that are ethically questionable, do you want to put yourself in a vulnerable position with that person?
 


In Texas, you must be licensed by the state in order to provide massage services for any form of compensation. (I have no problem with that, except the part of the law that says students cannot even receive tips during their required unpaid 50-hr internship!)

Licensure is relatively easy. You go to a state-approved school for the basic 300-hour program, which includes 250 classroom hours and 50 hours of internship (at the school's clinic), and then you take your state board exams, a written (150 questions) and a practical (6-minute demo of the basic Swedish strokes and 2 joint mobilizations). It takes 6-8 months usually. You can then call yourself a massage therapist and charge for your services. Licenses are renewed every 2 years for around $118 and you must take 12 state-approved CEU credits during those 2 years.

To be eligible to get into school and get a license, you have to have a high school diploma or GED, a clean record, and no sexual offenses of any kind. You also can't have any prior suspended or revoked licenses. That's it, as far as I know :)

As far as marketing, it's not hard. If you use any name besides your own name, you must file a D/B/A with the county you practice in (cost: $10, good for 10 years, and you really only need one, even if you practice in multiple counties) and then you can market under your assumed name. You need not form a corporation and register your name federally or anything. The only thing you can't do is have a sign that says "massage therapist" without your license #. You can either use your real name or your D/B/A, or you can say "massage therapy/massage therapist" and then your license number. Quirky, but simple :)

We have a lot of ppl practicing under the radar in our state. I personally know several people who practiced massage therapy as a business before getting registered. I went to school with one who never paid off his tuition entirely, but did finish his requirements and so he had all the experience and information he needed from school. Since he didn't pay off his tuition he can't get his license, but that isn't stopping him from practicing. Nice guy, but dumb move. We also have our share of providers of "other" services, and some in-between (i.e. "sensual", draping optional, nude, etc, but that adamantly refuse to cross the line and be escorts or prostitutes).

I've heard of some offering cheaper massage, but not much at all. In fact, even the schools are charging more than $30 for students and $39 is the absolute lowest I've seen for an hour session in a long time, and that's the discount massage places of the world. Private practitioners are all over the map, ranging from $60-90/hr typically, but never below $50.

Dealing with the other practitioners? You can report them, if you like. I've just left our wrong-doers alone. I realize I'll never stop the Problems, and all I can do is refuse to take appts from clients seeking those services. And beyond the programs/specials we already have set up, I will not offer any additional discounts, no matter how someone might object. We're worth what we're worth and we get what we're worth and so should everyone else :)

Hugs,
~Jyoti
 


I agree with Breathe, do you want a clientbase of discount hunters?

It's a challenge when you've got no clients to know you're missing out because you don't charge $20, but if you do charge $20 you won't be able to make a living doing this. (I wonder how many of those $20 per hour are full time - I bet for most of them it's just a hobby business, extra pocket money)

If people know there are $20 practitioner out there and they are ringing you up asking if you are $20, it usually means they've paid $20 in the past, they are not happy and looking for another practitioner, otherwise they would still be going to the $20 practitioner! If the $20 practitioner was doing a great job, they wouldn't be looking for someone else. Ask if they have tried the $20 practitioner and if they were happy, why look for someone else?

If you have no clients, you are time rich at the moment. Give people free upgrades on time - you have the time to spare, don't give them discounts on the price. Have an opening special 75min for the price of 60min or whatever.
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Young girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  34. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Kiki and Judy are at work. They are both young and pretty. They are great at deep and relaxing massages.
  35. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Young Beautiful Girls : New Girl Joy, Ellagant Ella, Hottie Hattie, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญHattie๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  36. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl Jessica Pretty Girl with amazing personality and super easy to get along with. Sasa friendly Vietnamese Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl
  37. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Friday April 25, 2025, our attendants will be Cici ๐Ÿ˜˜, Opal ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿฅฐ, Carla โค and Ada ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  38. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Terrific Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Tiffany, Joey, Julie, Aaliyah, Coco, Yui, Meghan, Michelle & New 34D Jasmineโ€”โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  39. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa :๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Thursday Schedule ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณSana 23, , Punjabi girl , very pretty 36 DDD ๐Ÿ˜ˆGFE โค๏ธElena ( Latino ) Big Nature Boobs & SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  40. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Tina works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  41. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower body scrub Sea Salt Bath๐Ÿ‘every day 3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Nice girl Mia โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 36 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, back walking has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will b
  42. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.on Thursday ,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…beautiful Jessica come back,deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…sunny very good looking,big breasted sweet sensual touch really popular ๐ŸŒนlong hair very young beautiful Lily ,friendly smile,,slim body back. Walk,hot stone,cupping ,more experience โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ,must try
  43. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude
  44. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, PAOLA, ASHA, ANGELINA, SONIA, SALMA, MEGAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  45. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธAlisaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  46. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive, with a tight frame and service with a smile. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one.
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  48. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Tina works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  50. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: ASHLEY is a beautiful slim Korean student, snow white skin, 5'2, 100 Lbs, natural C Cup, pink nipples, baby face & voice, can accomodate bbbj cim cof rim dfk, excellent services. KITTY (12pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business.
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