Akira from Premier is she gone gone?

Indy providers span the whole range of quality. The ones that last and build a steady clientele don’t short you on time, usually entering the location and first shower are not included in your time unless she joins you in the shower or you arrive late or take a very long time in the bathroom getting ready. The good and bad of independents are they are their own boss (if they are bad with time management or scheduling then your experience will be a disaster) on the other hand if you are nice and don’t push boundaries and they have time they will sometimes include extra time for free as they are not fined by an agency or SPA.

In terms of pricing some girls try to discourage shorter sessions with higher rates or don’t take bookings of shorter sessions altogether. For example Jenn Perla used to not take 1 hour bookings until she raised her rates to 500 HR and 1.5 HR booking became $750. She now offers 1 HR but charges $550 to discourage people from booking the shorter session. Some of the girls do charge extra on top of the hourly fee for some items such as BBFS, Rimming, Greek etc. In terms of tipping above the hourly fee you don’t need to do it.

In terms of service the quality ones do provide a better experience then at the SPA case in point Emily Sweets as I think her service as an Indy is better then what you get at Pure/Perla now. As mentioned by other posters a lot of girls tried to go Indy but their service/price wasn’t attractive to people and they ended back at the SPA.

This is a great answer thanks. So to be clear, a session that's an hour long is considered a "shorter session" and something they would prefer to avoid whenever possible? I'm surprised that these girl's clients are mostly doing sessions well over an hour at those rates, but I guess they have enough of them to make it worthwhile even when it's a smaller pool of clients.

For the rest of us it's rather unfortunate to be spending $400-$600 for an hour and still feeling like a cheapskate!

When the girls opt to provide extra time how do they let you know? It seems most working girls feel very strongly about not wanting clients to linger past their time, so how do you know when you completely have the green light and don't have to worry about this? Thanks again.
 
This is a great answer thanks. So to be clear, a session that's an hour long is considered a "shorter session" and something they would prefer to avoid whenever possible? I'm surprised that these girl's clients are mostly doing sessions well over an hour at those rates, but I guess they have enough of them to make it worthwhile even when it's a smaller pool of clients.

For the rest of us it's rather unfortunate to be spending $400-$600 for an hour and still feeling like a cheapskate!

When the girls opt to provide extra time how do they let you know? It seems most working girls feel very strongly about not wanting clients to linger past their time, so how do you know when you completely have the green light and don't have to worry about this? Thanks again.
Some girls will absolutely never give you free extra time but for others they see it as sort of a marketing expense to keep good clients normally you won’t get it on your first visit but you will need to see them a couple times and very rarely does it include sexual activity most of the time it is social in nature and the girl will let you know. For example she may ask if you want to stay for a cup of coffee or a glass of wine, in some cases dinner. If she is giving you a massage at the end of your session she may just keep going. Or before the session starts she may tell you that she has some free time after the session due to a cancellation etc. and you can stay for x time.
 
Don't count on extra time. She's likely got another client coming and needs to get ready. She'll let you know when you're time is up, don't worry about it. But when she starts hinting, that means it's time to leave, not linger.

I'd say I've only gotten extra time 20% of the time or less. It's usually when they don't have another client booked and they like your company. If you go in expecting it, you'll probably be disappointed.
 
So in the rare instances where they are clearly signalling you can stay for a bit longer for non-sexual time when they don't have a client right after you, is this time they expect or want to be paid or tipped for, or if it's strictly for marketing then it's just your continued frequent patronage that is the goal?
 
So in the rare instances where they are clearly signalling you can stay for a bit longer for non-sexual time when they don't have a client right after you, is this time they expect or want to be paid or tipped for, or if it's strictly for marketing then it's just your continued frequent patronage that is the goal?
I would not say it is rare, I would say it is rare for the average customer. The smart girls know to look after their VIP clients (big spenders/tippers) so that they continue to spend on them. Even in the SPA setting you see the same dynamic though it has to be outside the SPA.

For example take Sasha at Pure if you look at her client J’s Secret who spends a lot on her she sees him outside the SPA and Sexyfriends Agency and does not charge him for all the time, on the other hand the guy Candyman on this board wanted to see her outside the SPA but he wasn’t a big spender so she never went.

Another example is Olivia at Pure her Pet B used to spend a lot of money on her but she took him for granted as a result he reduced his spending on her and started to spend it on other girls.

It is not just free time another thing the girls do is certain gifts like chocolate or wine they recycle to other clients, for example if Client A gives them a bottle of wine they may regift it to client B.
 
Facially she's just ok for me but she's got a nice body. Has anyone here seen her as an indy, is her service better than at Perla? Because in the spa I found her service on the lighter end of GFE.
 
Facially she's just ok for me but she's got a nice body. Has anyone here seen her as an indy, is her service better than at Perla? Because in the spa I found her service on the lighter end of GFE.
Interested too if someone wants to DM me
 
I would not say it is rare, I would say it is rare for the average customer. The smart girls know to look after their VIP clients (big spenders/tippers) so that they continue to spend on them. Even in the SPA setting you see the same dynamic though it has to be outside the SPA.

For example take Sasha at Pure if you look at her client J’s Secret who spends a lot on her she sees him outside the SPA and Sexyfriends Agency and does not charge him for all the time, on the other hand the guy Candyman on this board wanted to see her outside the SPA but he wasn’t a big spender so she never went.

Another example is Olivia at Pure her Pet B used to spend a lot of money on her but she took him for granted as a result he reduced his spending on her and started to spend it on other girls.

It is not just free time another thing the girls do is certain gifts like chocolate or wine they recycle to other clients, for example if Client A gives them a bottle of wine they may regift it to client B.
This is because Candyman is not a cuck fool like you are (since you're clearly the other two people you've alluded to).

See, I spend a bit of my money on these girls when I get bored, but am always in complete control. You, on the other hand, pour all your money into these women, shower them in gifts, take them to Jamaica free of charge, and top that all off by putting on a leash and letting them walk you around your condo as you wear a leather dog suit and ball gag with your two inch penis hanging out.

(who wants pictures??!!!)

This makes me a mostly normal guy with excellent control over his finances and personal life). This makes you a pathetic man bitch with a two inch penis and a huge hole in his credit card.

I like my side of the equation better.
 
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Is Akira a real Japanese girl? Or fake Chinese pretending to be Japanese.

If real…where can I see her this weekend?
 
Is Akira a real Japanese girl? Or fake Chinese pretending to be Japanese.

If real…where can I see her this weekend?
AFAIK she's Japanese.

Her schedule and rates are on her website, which I think were linked to already.

Facially she's just ok for me but she's got a nice body. Has anyone here seen her as an indy, is her service better than at Perla? Because in the spa I found her service on the lighter end of GFE.
I think her service is a bit better as an Indy. She certainly seems more relaxed, which probably helps. I do think her SF2 suffers a bit in the hotel showers vs the ones at Perla, for whatever that's worth.

The caveat here is that I'd seen Akira more than a few times at Perla so I wasn't exactly an unfamiliar face going to see her as an indy. So there's no real awkwardness, and we just kind of let things go where they go, and I know I can have a good time.

So I think my experience is going to be different compared to someone who is seeing her for the first time.

And no, I've never showered her with gifts or anything of that nature. Just being respectful and a repeat client seems to work well for me.
 
This is because Candyman is not a cuck fool like you are (since you're clearly the other two people you've alluded to).

See, I spend a bit of my money on these girls when I get bored, but am always in complete control. You, on the other hand, pour all your money into these women, shower them in gifts, take them to Jamaica free of charge, and top that all off by putting on a leash and letting them walk you around your condo as you wear a leather dog suit and ball gag with your two inch penis hanging out.

(who wants pictures??!!!)

This makes me a mostly normal guy with excellent control over his finances and personal life). This makes you a pathetic man bitch with a two inch penis and a huge hole in his credit card.

I like my side of the equation better.
These pics exist?
 
These pics exist?
The pics of J’s secret are on Sasha twitter, though I am not J’s Secret. Personally I don’t understand why this guy Candyman gets triggered by some of these girls clients as they don’t impact him. Even though he claims he hasn’t seen the girls in over a year he keeps messaging Sasha on Twitter even though she doesn’t care and he was blocked by Olivia on Twitter. He must have a very fragile ego.
 
The pics of J’s secret are on Sasha twitter, though I am not J’s Secret. Personally I don’t understand why this guy Candyman gets triggered by some of these girls clients as they don’t impact him. Even though he claims he hasn’t seen the girls in over a year he keeps messaging Sasha on Twitter even though she doesn’t care and he was blocked by Olivia on Twitter. He must have a very fragile ego.
What’s her Twitter handle? I don’t kink shame 😆
 
Facially she's just ok for me but she's got a nice body. Has anyone here seen her as an indy, is her service better than at Perla? Because in the spa I found her service on the lighter end of GFE.
She was far from the lighter side of GFE at Perla.
 
She was far from the lighter side of GFE at Perla.
Okay I found these pics. She really isn’t all that special looks wise imo and the level of drama seems a little over the top. Best of luck ...
 
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    TUESDAY at 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Cherry & best massage Rachel 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ CHERRY is a Vietnamese beauty, standing 1.62Cm tall & weighing 50Kg, with a nice 32C bust size. She is a sexy and charming lady with excellent service. RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant
  33. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Mia 25 years old and young sweet Ivy 28 years old with curve body, sexy Coco and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  34. Dreaminn:
    TUESDAY at 💭𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔💭: EVA, LULU & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 ☎️ EVA is a slim, pretty & sexy Asian girl. She has excellent bbbj skills if you are nice and clean, and can perform like a champion. LULU is a very popular & well known Chinese attendant, slim and beautiful with 34C Cups, long sexy legs, and incredible services.
  35. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️: Cindy, Eva & Helen. Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Eva is young, slim, innocent & demure looks, but don’t let her innocent looks deceive. She can massage & service very well.
  36. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5’1” and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  37. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa ♨️♨️♨️ table shower body scrub 👍👍👍We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely new girl Emily and Jessica Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici🤗🤗🤗🤗5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call ☎️416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  38. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have amazing girls today 🌸 LUCY, MALIYA, NISHA, AMANDA, ANGEL, AAVI, KIRAN, SARIKA 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  39. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Monday:💋💋New hanna young student,💋💋 lisa- Service queen with a banging body that is sure to make heads turn. Angel - innocent GND looks that has a very sensual side to warm things up Coco - Spunky fun in...
  40. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, Young Sexy Slim Chinese Emma, Young Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  41. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Zoe - 🔥Stunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
  42. Pink Flower Spa:
    ✰ 416.299.5515 ✰ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8, Scarborough 🇻🇳🇻🇳 Selena (New) Vietnamese just 19Yrs, young & curvy, pretty 🇨🇳🇻🇳 Kelly | Elly (New) is Chinese Vietnamese, standing tall with captivating beauty and a radiant complexion 🇮🇳🇵🇭 Mandy | Mady (New) Indian | Filipino 19Yrs, hair to shoulder, pretty face 🇱🇧🇱🇧 A talented Arabian Girl 20Yrs from Lebanon ✰ PINK FLOWER SPA ✰ 416.299.5515 ✰ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8, Scarborough
  43. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Levi ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 🦵🦵👄👄🈵🈵👅👅
  44. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .☎️4379857899 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  45. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Jenny😍 is a beautiful young part-time student with a very sexy figure and big natural 34D breasts. She can give a great massage and very good open minded service. She knows how to please a man with her natural beauty and charm. She is a
  46. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  47. KSpa:
    MONDAY at 𝐊 𝐒𝐏𝐀: GIGI, NANA, YUMI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟵𝟮-𝟳𝟱𝟲𝟴 ☎️ GIGI is 22Yrs with a sexy body, 36C, 110 Lbs and waiting for you. NANA is a cute pretty Korean lady, about 5’2”, 105 Lbs, 20Yrs with a pretty face and knows how to treat a man well. YUMI is a young early twenties Japanese girl, about 5’2”, medium build
  48. SunriseRH:
    MONDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: HANNA & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 ☎️ HANNA is a young, tall & slim Vietnamese honey with great skills & attitude. SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5’3” with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services.
  49. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Tina😘 - A sweet tiny little treat from Mala
  50. NewOriental:
    MONDAY at 𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔: HAPPY & LULU 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
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