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DFK - Why Classified as an "extra"

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Something that I have always been curious about ever since the nutty lists were making the rounds was why DFK was treated as an 'extra' in the same manner as bj's etc . As far as I know it is not illegal ( or the kissing booths at country fairs would be outlawed - lol ) so why the problem ?

There was a poll sometime back which surprisingly showed this as the most desired activity . Ignoring , for the moment , the sadness that you need to pay to get kissed and the obvious YMMV due to breath , teeth etc , I'm having a hard time seeing why this is such a big deal in terms of secrecy . There are a least a few MPA's that have taken the poll to heart and seem to want to provide this as part of the regular service .

Guess I have missed the point somewhere along the line .
 
I understand your point but DFK is a very intimate act. Frankly I love it if I really like the lady. I think that many of the MPA's don't do this - or at least with me. Glad to hear that more want to provide it.

V12
 
As I recall, it was called DFK so as not to draw attention to the ladies. They used DFK but really implied much much more.
 
If you've ever been on the "inside" at a MP, if a girl walks out of an appointment without lipstick, or if it is badly smeared, she could easily be fired, as the boss will think she is giving BJs.
 
There are a lot of SP's who don't alow DFK. It is a more initmate act than say DATY. As far as the lists go, don't trust them until you have obtained first hand experience.
 
Being new to all of this, could someone please enlighten me on these terms

YMMV
DATY
DFK
 
its funny how someone thinks that DFK is too initmate but then allows DATY. Go figure?

I do agree, however, that DFK may lead to some sort of emotional involvement, which I think the MPA wants to avoid at all costs.
 
Look in the lounge at the sticky thread

http://www.massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=370
 
DFK is definately more intimate. It can confuse some clients because it gives them the idea that something more than what goes on is possible. Although I am sure most guys enjoy that experience it can lead to complications down the road. I have actually had a client who after I provided DFK, insisted that I date him. I told him I wan't interested and it led to a huge issue where he has to be banned from our club as he would never stop harassing me to go out with him. Previous encounters hadd included other things, but as soon as kissing became involved it was like he felt there was more between us.

Emma22
 
I've always found it strange how many girls in the industry ( and some hobbyists ) hold DFK to be sacred in terms of getting "intimate" ( in some cases it's likely an excuse ) ... I thought possibly it's just what they learnt from our good friend societies moral values. If that's the case it would also apply, in part, to it's highly valued status in this industry to some of us.

However, if I were to be sexually involved with someone I wasn't that attracted to, then DFK would be the thing I'd be most apprehensive about, which shows that there is some type of added physical contact above other sexual acts. But then again, as much as I hate to admit it, I'd be more inclined to want to receive than give in this type of situation. I'm not sure if this relates to this "emotional involvement" thing though ...

I really don't see how DFK can spawn emotional involvement or vice versa in the context of an MPA / client "relationship" ... Emotions are essentially separate from physical interaction, even though they can intertwine, under certain circumstances.

It's almost as though some girls need to keep something sacred, but, as markymark alluded to, licking & sucking of "private parts" as opposed to a mutual a bonding of parts which aren't so "personal" ( face lips, tongues, teeth, barbells ) as being less intimate strikes me as a little odd. That isn't to say I don't see it's higher value under certain circumstances. In essence ( to me at least) , if no emotion is attached it is purely a sensual physical act, within reasonable limits of emotion.

what was the question ?
 
Remember the movie "Pretty Woman" with Richard Gere and Julia Roberts. Julia Roberts refused to kiss Richard Gere because that was considered too intimate. Same thing with MPAs. This act is reserved for boyfriends. Sounds stupid and is the reason why it is so rare. So if you find someone who provides this service, you are truly fortunate.
bruce
 
Isn't it odd that this act is shown on TV very often especially on the reality shows such as "The Bachelor" and "Temptation Island". And on those shows, individuals are DFK'g a number of the participants. In this case, it doesn't appear that the individuals consider this act as "intimate" as some would. I too find it odd that MPA's don't mind allowing daty but say no way to DFK or even LFK. Daty is allowing a tongue bath in their most intimate body part. This must mean that women who allow daty but not DFK must find DFK is more of an emotional thing which they are unwilling to part with. Mind you, I hope to believe that MPA's known to offer DFK, do not allow this with everyone. I would hope that these MPA's would at least be somewhat attracted to the individual.
I truly enjoy DFK if I click with the MPA but I would also avoid it if I don't click with an MPA. It is a pleasurable act that I enjoy with a select few. Even though my handle seems I seek DFK in every encounter, I don't...only with the right MPA and in the right situation.
 
I have to admit - I look forward to finding DFK in a session, and so far, no such luck.

But when you think about it in real life terms for a second, it's kinda funny. You have a really good chance of hooking up with someone at a bar or dance club (non-peeler joint) and ending up DFK'ing them. But going any further, such as the coveted finish, would be waaaay outta line, not to mention not too common!

On the flipside, DFK is so hard to find with an MPA, yet there are other options that are quite readily on the table (or so I hear but again, I have yet to find)

Seems to be one of those 'things that make ya go hmmmmm....'
 
Well I would be Emma22, silly. And I figured a perspective from the MPA side would be beneficial. Was I wrong?

Emma
 
No, not from Body and Soul. I am from Kitchener.

Emma
 
Yes, Emma from Kitchener. Your perspective is most valid.
 
Well, is this the appropriate place to talk about me?? I will talk about the subject, but I think it might end up sounding bad.

Here goes:

Ever had a one night stand at the bar, greatest experience of your life, she was great, and well, you forget to call her, becuase sex, although this shouldn't be the case, is just an act. I've had one night stands, so I'm sure you have. When I kiss some one, especially DFK I want to feel there is some conection there, becasue it is no longer just an act that can be forgotten, or that I barely remembered (due to the presence of copious amounts of alcohol). When I kiss someone, they know for sure whether or not there is a conection, and maybe a lot of people in this industry are afraid or making that connection. It is easier if we can keep work and life separate. Does that help with the question??

Emma

P.S.: I intend no offence to men or women, but damn the English langueage it limits me to words.
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We love to hear what MPAs think. And unlike Mel Gibson, we do not have a clue. So to all the MPAs out there, get a massageplanet.net alias and let us know what you really think. Anonymously of course.

Personally I think that oral is more intimate than DFK, but for MPAs who receive/provide oral or attach significance to osculating, they might want to keep something back; at least symbolically. Therefore the intimacy and importance attached to DFK. Or possibly they refrain because of bad experiences with wingnuts, which spoils it for the rest of us.

Personally I prefer a bare hug to tonsil hockey. ... err I mean bear hug! Amanda Hug and Kiss right Rusty, Ref and all you other switch hitters? I wouldn't know as I am only 17% gay.
 
I love getting hugs from a clinet and I will always end the session with one. I want to remind them that I actually care about them, not just their wallet. I also try to remember something (like the name of their dog) it works for me as I don't think enough of the girls in the industry care about more than their bank account. Also I have a background in physiotherapy so I always can ask about injuries and their status, it makes them feel good that I remember them.

Emma
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jennifer๐Ÿ˜˜- A busty curvy new girl from Taiwan with excellent massage skills and a fun bubbly personality. Nice thick bum to worship and play with. A fun wild girl willing to provide an exciting happy finish anyway you like ๐Ÿ˜˜Real picture
  33. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  34. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietnamese
  35. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
  36. Hollywood_Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’˜๐Ÿ’ฅ a very clean spa at 4578 Yonge Street, unit 100โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ž Monday, โค๐Ÿ’˜ Tracyโฃ๐Ÿ’‹, tall with slim build, brown hair past shoulder, very pretty, amazing legs, friendly personality. excellent treatment and service. ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Mimi, ๐Ÿ’—medium height. good looking, dark hair to shoulder, firm treatment followed by good service menu ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฅ Sisi, ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„very slim build, medium height, can do firm treatment and over the top service. Cheerful personality and always thrilled to see you. ๐Ÿ’— ๐Ÿ“ฑ 416 222-5554๐Ÿ“ฑ
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lulu,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  38. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. KSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: CINDY, GIGI, NANA & YUMI. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ CINDY is slim & pretty with a 5โ€™3โ€ sexy body, big boobs 34D, and a nice curvy bum. Cindy can relax all your cares with her massage and great services. GIGI is 22Yrs with a sexy body, 36C, 110 Lbs and waiting for you. NANA is a cute pretty Korean lady
  40. Lulu1980:
    Hi guys ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿคช๐ŸคชPhoenix blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนevery day 3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅMia sexy body big boobs ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜very good body slide ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนand Jenny very good table shower๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ ๏ผŒCiciDeep Tissue Massage๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366
  41. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Vivian and young fun Ivy with curve body sexy Coco and sweet GFE Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  42. Dreaminn:
    MONDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: AMY, MIMI & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ AMY is a sweet and friendly Chinese vixen, 158Cms, 115Lbs, with C Cups, very excitable and fun. MIMI is a cute young Asian lady with a medium build,167Cms, 110Lbs, D Cups & very open minded services. VIVI is very cute and young
  43. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  44. Birchmount&14th:
    MONDAY at ๐๐ˆ๐‘๐‚๐‡๐Œ๐Ž๐”๐๐“ & ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’๐ญ๐ก: JESSIE & YUKI. Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฐ โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐—๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ๐—œ๐—˜ is a slim and very lovely Asian girl with massage skills of the highest degree. ๐—ฌ๐—จ๐—ž๐—œ is here today to provide an amazing professional massage. We are open 24 Hours daily. We have clean rooms and plenty of free parking.
  45. SunriseRH:
    MONDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMILY & HANNA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ EMILY is a beautiful Asian lady, 36C-29-29, 5โ€™4โ€ & 110Lbs, with a sensual touch. HANNA is a young, tall & slim Vietnamese honey with great skills & attitude. SUNRISE SPA, A sister spa of New Oriental Spa, welcomes you
  46. SunriseRH:
    MONDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMILY & HANNA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ EMILY is a beautiful Asian lady, 36C-29-29, 5โ€™4โ€ & 110Lbs, with a sensual touch. HANNA is a young, tall & slim Vietnamese honey with great skills & attitude.
  47. NewOriental:
    MONDAY at ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: HAPPY & LULU. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  48. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Sexy Slim Vietnamese Kim, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAMY, CINDY & LUCY AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
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