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What advice would the veterans give the young guys involved in this hobby?

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I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.
 
I don’t know how you can afford to eat and hobby on 55k. I would say save your money for property. I am on the high side of 250k and I still resent what I spend every month on the hobby. I’ve stopped almost entirely, only going to a fully legit lady once a week. I’ve known her for a few years and she’s the only one truly worth it. Spend your disposable income on something more constructive. Btw, I’ve been in the scene almost 4 decades.
 
Dont make friends with Krayjee and his 40 + handles.

The man is a Sociopath.
 
I don’t know how you can afford to eat and hobby on 55k. I would say save your money for property. I am on the high side of 250k and I still resent what I spend every month on the hobby. I’ve stopped almost entirely, only going to a fully legit lady once a week. I’ve known her for a few years and she’s the only one truly worth it. Spend your disposable income on something more constructive. Btw, I’ve been in the scene almost 4 decades.
well i live with my parents lol. my expenses are mainly my phone bill and presto card, and my job lets me work from home 3 days a week so i barely have any transportation expenses. lol i keep about 90% of my pay
 
well i live with my parents lol. my expenses are mainly my phone bill and presto card, and my job lets me work from home 3 days a week so i barely have any transportation expenses. lol i keep about 90% of my pay
Buy property as soon as you are able. Trust me on that.
 
Dont make friends with Krayjee and his 40 + handles.

The man is a Sociopath.

Lol are you peter66? whats up with people accusing others of being 1 person. you know this is the internet right ursus. alot of people have access to this stuff. me being krayjee is as true as you having a chinese wife.

LoL @krayjee am i doing it right?

Lord John
 
Buy property as soon as you are able. Trust me on that.

yep my parents said they'll help me with a down payment when i have enough to buy a place. this hobbying eats up about 200-500 a month which isnt much for me considering all my other expenses are low
 
Krayjee,

Go outside and make some friends.

It will help you tremendously.
 
I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can?
Your income typically goes up as you get older, but your cock won't work as well later on. Hobby as much as you can within your budget and schedule, while you still can.

And yes this hobby will change the way you look at girls moving forward. Civvies typically aren't as skilled in bed as professionals.
What would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.
Carry extra cash and an extra condom...
 
Dont wait for any prostitute.

Once she starts to delay the appt, leave and go fuck another whore.

And no 2nd chances.
 
only one of my friends in real life knows of my hobby participation and i tried to rationalize with him why i left my girlfriend and how this will make up for it, and he said it was a genius idea lol. he told me he'd do it as well if he had a good job. if your young making good money why stay tied down to 1 girl when you can go fuck a new one every week? maybe when i get more serious i will get back into a relationship in 2-4 years but i think i'd rather have some fun now and enjoy this time while it lasts
 
Do a lot of introspective reflection to watch for addiction. It's easy to get addicted. When you start feeling anxious and need to see a girl just to get off, that's a sign of addiction. Also, don't fall in love. Easiest is to do what you set out and see a different girl every week. But, eventually, you may start seeing a few regularly. So watch your emotional reactions.

55k a year is peanuts. Listen to Peter666 and others. Even if you living at home, save your money and buy property. Houses are freaking expensive these days. I really don't know how young people are expected to buy anything.
 
I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.

I started with one massage a month and moved up; sometimes I go 3-4 times a week.
do the math is a ton of money per year, I went from $1,200.00 at the beginning to a $24,000.00 last year

Yes, you have the "memories" but hey, you can't buy an ice cream cone with that.
Yes, this habit ruins your head, your perspective of women, your outlook on life

My Advice: Walk away from this fucking, disgusting hobby,
Save your $$$, set a target, buy a house, move in, then buy a second home, rent it
Pump you money into RRSPs, pay off your debt, pay off your CCs, you will see you have little money left to waste after covering all your expenses.

distract your self with other activities, travel, movies, family.

When you feel the urge to visit the whores. put the money into your savings. Once you see your money growing you'll want to make your stash bigger and bigger.

Walk away while you can
 
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Remember that these girls are PREDATORS. They see you as a MARK.

The only thing they want from you is your MONEY.

So, hobby close to home, for they will undoubtably play games on you and waste your time and travel costs. If you hobby close to home, you can lessen these costs. Trust me 100% - they will screw you around by bumping you, making you wait, flaking on you etc. They will try to cut corners during the appt, make excuses, lie and cheat/scam you out of your money.

Reduce your risks by playing smart.

No mattery what a Whore says to you, dont believe it. They Lie for a living, same as a politician does. They aren't your friend and they dont even care 1% about you as a person.

I have had Hookers try to threaten me with Police attention, claim I assaulted them, claim I threatened them etc. And in every case, I wasnt even in any contact with the girl whatsoever. They just make shit up right out of thin air in order to please their own devious emotions.

You have to be super careful when you interact with these Predators.
 
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Well... I started in the late 70's going to strip bars, then the internet came BOOM the whole industry changed...strip bars basically became your early body rubs. Then the massage parlours came about... topless at first then well everything. Then SP's became the norm. My advise to the new hobbiest would be to set a firm budget or you will be in trouble fast, also always use a cover even for a PS. Believe me if you don't it can change your life in a hurry.
 
I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.

I won't bore you with the whole "save your money and invest in property" crap because it all goes without saying. I'm doing fine now but was able to do this hobby when I was broke because we all need a few vices in life and going to MPs is better than drinking or smoking weed. Set a budget, find a few regulars and limit that list. I've never been the adventurous type but I've noticed that seeing one woman has considerably shrunk my budget as opposed to the time that I had to stash away several thousands of dollars on a bunch of 40/45-minute sessions so I could try as many girls as possible every week. Now I can get more out of this hobby by having unrushed 90-minute or 2-hour sessions twice or more a month with someone I trust. I suggest that you treat this hobby as a fantasy and not a means of attaining sexual gratification. Fuck! You're young! Use Tinder for sex! Let the fantasy from your MP experiences inspire you to find the right woman.
 
I won't bore you with the whole "save your money and invest in property" crap because it all goes without saying. I'm doing fine now but was able to do this hobby when I was broke because we all need a few vices in life and going to MPs is better than drinking or smoking weed. Set a budget, find a few regulars and limit that list. I've never been the adventurous type but I've noticed that seeing one woman has considerably shrunk my budget as opposed to the time that I had to stash away several thousands of dollars on a bunch of 40/45-minute sessions so I could try as many girls as possible every week. Now I can get more out of this hobby by having unrushed 90-minute or 2-hour sessions twice or more a month with someone I trust. I suggest that you treat this hobby as a fantasy and not a means of attaining sexual gratification. Fuck! You're young! Use Tinder for sex! Let the fantasy from your MP experiences inspire you to find the right woman.

I think I've just come around to this way of thinking. Reading these message boards and looking at the profiles of different girls, it makes the imagination run wild. I desperately wanted to try them all out and I've been going really hard lately, recently I went every fucking day for a week and even twice on one day. I actually got burned out, I thought what the hell am I doing this is supposed to be fun. I took a break for a week and had a 90 min session with my regular and it was perhaps the best session I've ever had. I guess I just had to get it all outta my system. Quality over quantity from now on.
 
I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.

We all need some loving care from some of these beautiful ladies, I been doing this since my separation
7 years ago. Take your time and don't rush things and most importantly read the reviews it brings up
The wow factor. As time goes on you'll make friends if your a gentleman of course, I brought out countless
Ladies for dinner afterwards with no up charge. This is always nice after sex. And one lady and I went
Away for week down south it was great waking up to a naked curvy body beside you. I've had my fill
Of relationships and also being married for 20 years. I prefer this with no expectations or commitments just pure sex and laughs. And don't think paying higher is better, that is not the the truth. Im pursuing one
Firecracker right now that I found on twitter, she has the body of a goddess and the service to match.
I was blown away when she told me it was 280 for the hr. I was for sure thinking it was 400.
Btw you can find real gems on Twitter. That you can talk to privately.
 
don't fall in love

they don't love you and will not love you
 
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    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty student Summer and young fun Jessy open mind with , sweet Cute GFE Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage. Pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North YorK
  30. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Connie , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Sasa,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .☎️4379857899👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  31. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯💯💯 - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Apple😘 - Brand new girl from Taiwan just a
  32. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 new Asian girl cici in today & big ass Spanish girl @monday hot young Indian girl @Tuesday Beautiful Face Persian girl @wednesday Friday Saturday &Good sevice Cuban girl @
  33. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(437) 818-8896☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Mia😍 beautiful young Singapore girl. Mia has a very sexy body, and beautiful busty boobs and golden blonde hair. She can give a very good teasing and relaxing massage with a sensual great playful HAPPY service. So very sexy beautiful gir
  34. Dreaminn:
    SUNDAY at 💭𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔💭: LULU, MIMI & YOYO. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 ☎️[/color] LULU is a very popular & well known Chinese attendant from another spa, very slim and beautiful with 34C Cups and incredible services. MIMI is a cute young Asian lady with a medium build,167Cms, 110Lbs, D Cups & very open minded services.
  35. SunriseRH:
    SUNDAY at SUNRISE SPA: MICHELLE, SUMMER. & TIANA 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 647-325-8086 ☎️ MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5’2” & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is a sweet Asian babe, 5’3” with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services.
  36. NewOriental:
    SUNDAY at 🍏💚NEW ORIENTAL SPA💚🍏: JOEY, HAPPY & LULU. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 647-381-2688 ☎️ JOEY is a very open minded Chinese girl, 5’4” with 36D Cups and a variety of services. HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  37. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 7 hot brown girls today 🌸 MALAY, MONIKA, KIRAN, MIMI, NISHA, ANAYA, YAYAL PEARL 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  38. GoldenFlower:
    SUNDAY at 💛⭐🌟🌻GOLDEN FLOWER SPA🌻🌟⭐💛, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Kelly(to 9pm), Misa(to 9pm), Sonia & Tracy; After 9pm: Jojo & Monica Kelly is slim and pretty with very good services. Misa is a young, pretty & petite Vietnamese lady, about 5’ tall with long black hair. She can provide a satisfying Sonia comes from India with love,
  39. ASPA:
    𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝗔 𝗦𝗣𝗔: Be𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹, & Sophia 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ RACHEL is a petite & cute, 34C, 155Cms & 50Kg, very gentle & patient. She has good communication, massage & service. SOPHIA is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5’4”
  40. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️Amy & Jenny. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Don’t miss out on her special skills! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curved with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Jennifer, Mia & Sophia. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe. Come and give her a try, and you’ll be sure to come back for more.
  42. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  43. Wildmonke:
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  44. Sparkling Spa:
    SPARKLING SPA 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!!!! VIET SERVICE QUEEN JENNY AND HK HOTTIE FOX!!!☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  45. bumika.vashi:
    (((आपको बिना नाटक या नखरे करने वाला सर्विस चाहे तोह याद करना. ))) If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it. Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not forget to
  46. Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
    💗💗💗 ℍ𝕒𝕡𝕡𝕪 𝕄𝕠𝕥𝕙𝕖𝕣’𝕤 𝔻𝕒𝕪 💗💗💗🌟🌟🌟 MAY 12th , SUNDAY 🌟🌟🌟 ☎️ (905) 707-6866 🕙🌟🌟🌟Open 10:30-10:00🗺#33-160 East Beaver Creek 🗺 7 Rms 🛏🌟🌟🌟Table Shower(TS)+Massage * 2hr $120* (Appt. Only) , TS & massage 1hr $90, 🌟🌟🌟$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min 🌟🌟🌟Attendants: We have 4️⃣ today 🍀🍀🍀 🌹🆕 DAISY 🌹🆕 TINA 🌹 SOPHIE 🌹🆕 NAT 🍀🍀🍀 NEWSFLASH 🍀🍀🍀 🆕 TINA & SOPHIE & 🆕 DAISY & 🆕 NAT ‘ s BACK 🍀🍀🍀 TODAY 🍀🍀🍀
  47. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-06 Today we have 5 girls on Saturday: Jennifer - CBC girl with large breasts and a nice booty to compliment her fun services Vicky - cute spinner with a slim frame and services Sandy -...
  48. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel & Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  49. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 CHASITY, NIMRAT, SARIKA, MONIKA, PAYAL PEARL, PARY, MIMI, NISHA, MALIYA, KIRAN 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  50. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯💯💯 - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Apple😘 - Brand new girl from Taiwan just a
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